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May-01-02
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Jan-01-05
 | | tamar: <ptown> Probably Garry saw 37 f3 Qb7
38 Qa1 Rf7 and the tricks are over. The knight on e7 is lost. |
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| Jan-02-05 | | ptown: Tamar; how does this game play out if instead of white queen to a1 , the queen goes to c5! This seems to be an interesting position for white. Is there a possible draw in this postiion ? Would this allow the knight on e7 to move to c6 and then to a5 if black moves to d8 ? Isn't the game still on . I need some help!! |
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| Jan-02-05 | | ptown: tamar; I meant rook to c8 not d8. |
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| Jan-02-05 | | ptown: <tamar> ptown again; If Garry saw 37 f3 Qb7 and 38 Qb1 Rf7 why is the Knight on e7 lost if white then plays Ra7 threatening the Queen. I'm no expert but I would like to see the moves in which white loses the Knight. Maybe I'm missing something!! |
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| Jan-02-05 | | ptown: <tamar> typo error:I meant Qa1 not Qb1 in my last message |
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Jan-02-05
| | tamar: <ptown> There are a few more tricks I see, but Black always wins because f3 exposes the King. All Black has to do is find tactics to cover the c6 square and the knight has no exit. Plus Ivanchuk is already a pawn up. 37 f3 Qb7 38 Qa1 Rf7 39 Ra7 Qb4 40 Nc6 Qc5+ picks up the knight, or 37 f3 Qb7 38 Qc5 Rf7 39 Nc6 Rc7 40 Na5 Qb1+ wins the queen. By the way, most of these games are not live, but archived. Chessgames shows live games on occasion which generate pages of comment and analysis. |
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| Jan-02-05 | | sandyobrien: or <tamar> and <ptown> another possible line 40. g3 Nxa3+ 41. Kg2 Ng5 but here, if white plays anything but 42. Qa3, black simply takes the knight on e7 right away |
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Jan-02-05
| | tamar: <ptown> Oops. I was trying to analyse from the final diagram. Now I see what you mean. 37 f3 Qb7 38 Qc5 Rf7 39 Ra7! and although Black is still winning with 39...Qb1+, the knight is not immediately lost. So Ivanchuk would have no doubt switched to a mate threat after 37 f3 Qb7 38 Qc5 with 38...Qb2 when the queen must come back to protect g2 and the knight or rook is lost. Found by Shredder 8. |
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| Jan-02-05 | | ptown: <tamar> Thanks. Now I can sleep tonight. I need some more practice!! |
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Jan-02-05
| | tamar: <sandyobrien> After 37 f3 Qb7 38 Qa1 Rf7 39 Ra7 Qb4 40 g3, 40... Ne6 would be the move I would play even though Black could go after the h pawn too. I don't see any way to save the ♘e7 after that |
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| Jan-02-05 | | aw1988: Hehe, this is something new:
:)
from daskorrupt's memorable games by daskorrupt |
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| Jan-02-05 | | Bloodstone: Notice that after 37) f3 Ivanchuk can play Qxf3 with a consequent Ne2 winning the white queen. This way he is up two pawns, which should be enough to assure a victory. |
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| Jan-07-05 | | ptown: Is the game still a lost cause if Garry were to play 37 Qc6? What would be black's response? Does Black have a winning position after 37 Qc6? |
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| Jan-07-05 | | aw1988: 37. Qc6 Qe1+ 38. Kh2 Ne2  |
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| Feb-26-05 | | Whitehat1963: Kasparov's only loss in the C88 Ruy Lopez. |
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| Jun-12-06 | | dakgootje: Blacks last move is deadly, but more complicated then i thought at first, as i didnt see all those variations which are posted earlier on |
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| Jun-20-07 | | MH7000: what happens if Kasparov does 37. Qf1...? is his knight lost somehow later? I do not know becuase i am not very good at chess ☺☻ |
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| Jun-21-07 | | adair10: <MH7000: what happens if Kasparov does 37. Qf1...? is his knight lost somehow later?> Then 37...Rb8 followed by Rb1 with Q-R exchange. If white tries to prevent it (e.g.Ra1), then white N falls as it is trapped. |
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| Jun-21-07 | | Wolfgang01: What's 37. f3 Qb7? 37. … Qxf3 leaves black with 2 pawns more. 37. Qf1 Qb7 traps the knight. |
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| Jun-21-07 | | MH7000: thanks guys |
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| May-28-08 | | Whitehat1963: Perhaps it's still too well known, but black to play after 36. Ra3 makes for an excellent Thursday/Friday puzzle. |
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| Jan-13-09 | | Xeroxx: Isn't 8.a4 unnecessary since black has already played d6? |
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| Mar-01-09 | | ughaibu: What was the time control? |
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| Oct-03-09 | | amadeus: This game was an Armageddon -- after 4 draws in 2 rapid and 2 blitz games. |
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