Oct-03-04 | | Morty: 7. ...Kg8 was a bad decision. But hey, this game was played between kids under 10, so I'll cut them some slack. |
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Dec-10-04 | | Knight13: I've fallen into this kind of idiotic mate before. Now I know how to avoid it. |
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Dec-10-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: <Knight13> This is called the Fried Liver
attack. They call it this for a reason. It leaves blacks goose
cooked! A prolonging of the misery (one of which Ive looked
painfully into to find something for black to find nothing) could
have been 7. ...Ke6 8.Nc6 Ncb4 9.a3 Nxc2+ 10.Kd1 and black is
helpless. 5. ...Nxd5? is an invitation to disaster. |
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Dec-10-04 | | acirce: <InspiredByMorphy> I don't think so. How is Black helpless? I'll bite - 10..Nxa1. 6.d4 is actually considered better after 5..Nxd5?! but this is very much a matter of taste. |
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Dec-11-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: <acirce> Thanks your right. 10. ...Nxa1 11. d4 c6 12. Re1 Kd7 13. Nxd5 cxd5 14. Qxd5+ Kc7 15. Qxe5+ Qd6 and black is winning. |
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Dec-11-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: H Steiner vs NN, 1945 is an example in this line where black misses a vital move. |
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Feb-12-05 | | KKW: 7...Kg8 is the worst possible move that could be played in that position |
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Apr-15-05 | | aw1988: If white is trying the Fried Liver, I think 6. d4! is a vast improvement. |
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Nov-26-05 | | Chopin: QF3+, then the king should have moved to e6. Black will eventually lose, even after Ke6. |
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Nov-26-05 | | aw1988: Actually, Black can hold, albeit with an inferior position. |
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Nov-26-05 | | Chopin: <aw 1988> I agree that Black can hold, but I've read that with best play White will win. |
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Nov-26-05 | | aw1988: Where did you read it? |
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Nov-26-05 | | Chopin: Hello <aw 1988>: Sorry but I can't quote the source; it was on the internet. Regardless, we can both agree that black has an inferior position. Take care. |
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Nov-26-05 | | aw1988: *shrug*, I'm not willing to play the Black side of it. You too. |
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Nov-26-05 | | aw1988: Frankly it seems stupid to debate an opening Black has no chance of winning. |
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Jul-06-09 | | WhiteRook48: 7...Kg8 |
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Jan-05-10 | | Infohunter: <InspiredByMorphy: <Knight13> This is called the Fried Liver attack. They call it this for a reason. It leaves blacks goose cooked! A prolonging of the misery (one of which Ive looked painfully into to find something for black to find nothing) could have been 7. ...Ke6 8.Nc6 Ncb4 9.a3 Nxc2+ 10.Kd1 and black is helpless. 5. ...Nxd5? is an invitation to disaster.> <acirce: <InspiredByMorphy> I don't think so. How is Black helpless? I'll bite - 10..Nxa1.6.d4 is actually considered better after 5..Nxd5?! but this is very much a matter of taste.> <InspiredByMorphy: <acirce> Thanks your right. 10. ...Nxa1 11. d4 c6 12. Re1 Kd7 13. Nxd5 cxd5 14. Qxd5+ Kc7 15. Qxe5+ Qd6 and black is winning.>
<InspiredByMorphy: <acirce> Thanks your right. 10. ...Nxa1 11. d4 c6 12. Re1 Kd7 13. Nxd5 cxd5 14. Qxd5+ Kc7 15. Qxe5+ Qd6 and black is winning.> OK, let's see what you guys think of this, a game I won recently on chess.com: [Event "Fast Players Group vs Wolf Team - Board 5"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2009.12.13"]
[White "Infohunter"]
[Black "clozmie"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1900"]
[BlackElo "1516"]
[TimeControl "1 in 1 day"]
[Termination "Infohunter won by checkmate"]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 Nxd5 6.Nxf7 Kxf7 7.Qf3+ Ke6 8.Nc3 Ncb4 9.a3 Nxc2+ 10.Kd1 Nxa1
11.Nxd5 Kd6 12.d4 c6 13.dxe5+ Ke6 14.Qg4+ Kxe5 15.Re1+ Kd6 16.Qf4+ Kd7 17.Qf5+ Kd6 18.Qe5+ Kc5 19.Be3+ Kxc4 20.Qd4+ Kb5
21.Qd3+ Ka5 22.Bd2+ Bb4 23.Bxb4+ Ka4 24.b3+ Nxb3 25.Nc3# 1-0 Granted, it wasn't easy after 10...Nxa1; fact is, though, I've yet to fail to win against 5...Nxd5, ALWAYS choosing the Fried Liver Attack. At White's twelfth, 12. d4 works better than 12. Re1--at least, that's my experience. |
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Sep-04-11 | | TheRavenPK: <Infohunter> Nice win. I tried to check the other moves possible by black since 13..Ke6, but I think all lead to mate. Thanks for showing this game. |
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Sep-21-12 | | Abdel Irada: Hard to imagine why Black would play on after 8. ♗xd5†, but I suppose one has to allow for the vagaries of youth. |
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Dec-05-18 | | Nightsurfer: One might hardly believe one's eyes: There has happened a crazy parallel case ... of the final position of checkmate in this game here <Rodrigo Maidana vs Pierino Goette (2001)> after <10.Qxe6#>, please have a look at that very constellation ... click for larger view ...
with the final position of checkmate (with colours reversed) that has been executed two years later at the end of the game R Schnelle vs R Gralla, 2003 , please have a look at the constellation of Black's deadly punch with <12. ... Qe3#> ...  click for larger view... a kind of virtual bridge that has linked two events through time and space! Stunning! |
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Apr-28-20 | | sea7kenp: To those who think the Fried Liver is a forced loss for Black, set it up as White and then play a Strong Computer (i.e. Stockfish). Obviously, Black must play 7 ... Ke6, however. |
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