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| Aug-13-10 | | clma55: Why white didnt play 16. Bxf5 ??
He´s giving a bishop for near nothing |
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| Aug-13-10 | | eightsquare: Very nice name. White was completely outplayed. |
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| Apr-01-11 | | hedgeh0g: No matter how many times I see this game, I can't help cracking up. |
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May-10-11
 | | Richard Taylor: Wha- wha- wha- was that?!!! Wha- happened?! Was that a chess game? |
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May-10-11
| | Richard Taylor: Well calculated by Schmid! |
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| Feb-13-12 | | LawrenceBernstein: Where's my saddle? |
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Feb-09-13
 | | perfidious: In the early 1990s, I recall a game in Chess Life with 5....Nxe4 where Black came horribly to grief, but nothing of the analysis at the moment. Back in 1980, I picked up a copy of Tartakower and Dumont's 100 Modern Master Games and played through this knightmare in total astonishment, in which Bogo's wayward knight at h8 winds up horsie de combat. Heaven forfend! If my opponent in A Shaw vs P MacIntyre, 1996 had tried 5....Nxe4, I would likely have fallen off my chair, then run into the wilderness of the campsite where the event was held, never to be seen again. |
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| Apr-03-13 | | RAlehin: Now THAT's chess! |
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May-19-13
 | | piltdown man: Vale, Lothar. |
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| May-20-13 | | Calli: Des-per-ado, why don't you
come to your senses? |
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| Jun-27-13 | | jerseybob: This opening has a very 19th-Century feel to it and I'm surprised Bogo hadn't encountered it before. A sneaky point I originally missed was if 17.Bf5,Nf5 18.Ng5?,Be3ch!, but if 18.Nh8 Ne7! also snares the knight. |
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| Nov-29-13 | | Eduardo Bermudez: About 60% of all moves for both side were by knights !! |
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Sep-14-14
 | | FSR: I tried to submit <O Wholly Knight> as a pun, but CG.com's software rejected it because the game has already been GOTD. |
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| Mar-05-16 | | jemptymethod: At a quick glance (depth 32 so far), Komodo 9.3 running on 6 cores and over 25GB of RAM thinks 8...Nf2 is a rather egregious mistake (eval of around -0.9 instead of 0 if Black just plays 8...Kxf7) due to 9.Nxh1 Nxh8 10.Be3! |
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| Mar-05-16 | | morfishine: Wow, this game really threw me |
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Jun-01-18
 | | tpstar: <What a flurry of desperados betwen moves 6-9!> <This game is also entertainingly annotated in "The Chess Player's Bedside Book" by Ray Keene. The two Knights are certainly notable for "conspicuous consumption". Victims are: White KN, QRBBNPP, Black KN, QRRNPPP. Each accounts single-handedly for 25 on the "points" scale of the whole 39 available!> <doesn't White stand better after the simple 6. Nxe4 Qe7 7. f3 d5 8. Bd3, followed by O-O? It certainly looks simpler..> <According to Schmid, yes, you are right. White is a little better. But he said Bogo was only playing for a draw and that is why he took the knight.> <About 60% of all moves for both side were by knights!!> Cool game. |
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Oct-20-20
| | FSR: As the comp notes, Schmid's 8...Nxf2?! was weak. After 9.Nxh8 Nxh1, Bogo should have played 10.Be3! and Black is in trouble (+2.01 Stockfish 12). Sethuraman in his chessable course gives 8...Kxf7! 9.Bc4+ Kf6 10.Kxd1 c6 11.Be3 d5 12.Bd3 Bd6 13.Kd2 c5, intending 14...Bf5, with equality. |
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Oct-21-20
 | | GrahamClayton: Reminds me of G Koshnitsky vs Hewitt, 1945, when a knight from each side goes on a wild tour of the board. |
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| Dec-01-20 | | goodevans: One obvious question, as asked by <clma55> ten years ago, is why white just gave up a piece on move 17. The very first post on this game shows how he could have got away with just the loss of a pawn (N.B. <Hidden Skillz> is one move out in his analysis) ... <Jun-28-05 Hidden Skillz: interesting exchanges but bogo is the first to mess up.. 15..Bf5 is really a nice move if 16.Bxf5 Nxf5 and then white knight is trapped 17.Ng5 runs into Be3+ and picks up the knight.. however the knight can escape on h8 and escape being captured but loses a pawn in return..> ...but although the white N is indeed trapped after <18.Bxf5 Nxf5> white can ensure that black gets no more than a pawn for it. <18.Rf1!> would provide X-ray protection for the N and after <18...g6 19.Be1> white will advance the g-pawn to win back the piece. So black had not one but two ways to avoid losing a piece. |
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| Dec-01-20 | | goodevans: ...but although the white N is indeed trapped after <<17>.Bxf5 Nxf5> ... I likewise having trouble with integers! |
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May-21-22
| | FSR: The theoretically approved line for White is 6.Nxe4 Qe7 7. f3 d5 8. Bb5 Bd7 9.Bxc6 bxc6 10.O-O dxe4 11.Re1, but after 11...O-O-O 12.Rxe4 Qb4, Black is OK despite his dodgy-looking king position. One possible continuation is 13.Nb3 Qb7 14.Be3 Bf5 15.Rd4 Bd6 16.Qe1 c5 17.Nxc5 Bxc5 18.Rxd8+ Rxd8 19.Bxc5 Qxb2! 20.Bxa7 Bxc2 21.Bf2 Qxa1 22.Qxa1 Rd1+ with equality. |
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Jan-08-24
| | FSR: Opening Explorer shows that Black has only played 5...Nxe4!? about 1.5% of the time (53 games out of 3,723), but it has given him a plus score (29.5 out of 53 games). Apparently it never dawns on most people that it's a possible move. If you let Stockfish 16 analyze to depth 60, it gives White a negligible +0.09 advantage, so it's a completely reasonable move. |
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Feb-08-24
 | | louispaulsen88888888: I ended up here after someone played that against me on ICC. I played 10. Bd3? as well, but won after 10…g6? 11.Nxg6. After subsequently botching it, I won only after an endgame error in an equal position by my opponent. If it happens again, I’m ready with 10. Be3! |
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| Jun-29-24 | | PhoenixEngine: <10. Be3!> wins after <10...Bd6 11. 0-0-0 Bxh2 12. Bb5 Ng3 13. Re1>, and black has to give up the knight to stop checkmate, e.g. <13...Ne4 (13...Kf8?? 14. Bc5+ d6 15. Re8#) 14. Bg5 Kf8 15. Rxe4> and white wins easily with the knight for two pawns since black's queenside is completely undeveloped. Other tries don't work, such as <10...b6 11. Bc4 Bb7 12. Bf7+ Kd8 13. Kf1 Bd6 14. Kg1 Ng3 15. hxg3 c5 16. Bh5 Kc7 17. Nf7>, saving the knight. While black can save the knight with <10...d5 11. Bd3 Be6 (11...g6 12. Nxg6 hxg6 13. Bxg6+ Ke7 14. 0-0-0 Ng3 15. hxg3) 12. Bxh7 Bd6 13. 0-0-0 d4! 14. Rxd4 0-0-0 15. Ng6 Re8 16. Bf4 Bc5 17. Rd1 Nf2 18. Re1 Ng4>, white has an extra pawn and active pieces. |
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| Jun-29-24 | | PhoenixEngine: <5...Nxe4 6. Nxe4 Qe7 7. f3 d5 8. Bb5 Bd7 9. 0-0 dxe4 10. Bxc6 bxc6 11. Re1 0-0-0 12. Rxe4 Qb4> is theory, but the position liquidates far too quickly after <13. Nb3 Qb7 14. Bg5 f6 15. Bf4 Bf5 16. Rd4 Rxd4 17. Qxd4 Qb6 18. Be3 Qxd4 19. Nxd4 Bd7 20. Nb3 a6 21. Re1 Bd6 22. Bd4 Re8 23. Rxe8 Bxe8 24. Nc5 Bxc5 25. Bxc5> and the players can agree to a draw because black's worse pawn structure is irrelevant with opposite colored bishops. This is why I think white should play <5. Nxc6> instead of <5. c3> |
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