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Nov-26-04
 | | tpstar: <AlfieNoakes> Hello! Welcome to the group! We're all here working on our chess skills to get better. Note that 41 ... Qc7?? would Overload the King, losing to 42. Qxc7+ Kxc7 43. Rxe7+ and White wins. See you around. |
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Nov-26-04 | | themindset: just a technical note, this isn't an english at all, this is a QGD Tarrash. |
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Nov-26-04 | | kevin86: Would the sequel be:
45...♕e7 46 ♖e1+ ♔f7 47 ♕e8# (?) |
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Nov-26-04 | | JohnBoy: <fgh> I am pretty sure that the game in question was Spassky vs Tal, 1973. A beautiful game where T sacrifices to pursue S's K around with R and Q. |
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Nov-27-04 | | ughaibu: Fgh and JohnBoy: It was probably Tal vs Spassky, 1965 both the games you've suggested were played after this one. |
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Nov-27-04 | | JohnBoy: <ughaibu> While aware of the chronological order of the games, I am not convinced. The game you cite has little in common with this. In looking through the record posted here, there are few Tal victories against Spassky to choose from. In posting the above link, I thought that either the actual game is not posted, or the comments of Tal you mention on Feb-10-03 are mistaken. No matter what, the S-T game I posted is a fine game. Check it out. |
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Nov-27-04 | | ughaibu: JohnBoy: look at the position after black's 29th in the 1965 game. White could play Rc6 followed by Ra8, I think the resemblance is clear. I read Tal's comment in the text of a lecture published in Chess in the late 60s, so it definitely wasn't either of your or Fgh's suggestions, fine games though they may be. |
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Nov-27-04 | | JohnBoy: Okay - I see what you are after. Maybe after black's 28th instead of after 29...Kf8, getting the king off of the long diagonal. Fair enough. |
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Dec-21-04 | | patzer2: Tal's 33. Nxd5! is a sharp "pinning" tactic used to achieve a strong (probably winning) advantage. However, I believe a simpler and equally effective alternative was 33. Qf5!, forcing the exchange of Queens for a won endgame. 33. ♘xd5!?
[33. Qf5! Nh4 34. Qxg5 Nf3+ 35. Kg2 Nxg5 36. Rb7 Kf8 37. Rxb6 ] 33. ♘xd5! ♗xd5 (33...Rxd5 34. Rxf7 Kxf7 35. Bxd5+ ) 34. ♖a8! ♕c1+ (34...Bxa2 35. Rxd8+ Kf7 36. Qc6 Ne7 37. Qe8+ is the game continuation) {35. Kg2 Bxa2 36. Rxd8+ Kf7 37. b3 Qe1 38. Rd6 Nf8 39. Qd5+ Kg6 40. g4! h6 41. Qh5+ Kh7 42. Rxf6 (42. Rxb6?? Ng6 43. Qf5 Bb1 44. Re6 Qxe6 45. Qxb1 Qxg4+ ) 42...♕e4+ 43. ♔g3 ♘g6 44. ♕f5 ♕xf5 45. ♖xf5 ♗xb3 46. ♖b5 ♗a4 47. ♖xb6 ♘e7 48. ♖a6 and White has a clear and near decisive endgame advantage. |
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Sep-17-09 | | WhiteRook48: 34 Ra8!! Tal knows how to work the pin |
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Oct-01-09 | | WhiteRook48: why does his Tarrasch start 1 Nf3 Nf6 2 c4 c5? |
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Oct-10-09 | | panzerkampf: Karjakin vs Kosteniuk, 2003 |
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Aug-12-11 | | laskereshevsky: Brinck Claussen said to me that after 33.♘xd5 He was very short of time, and without enough time to think about it he just thought:... "OMG!, what is this?!.... Tal blundered?!?!... Im gone winning, Im gone winning against Tal!!..." But after 34.♖a8, I realized that was not a blunder but the start of a great combination.... Its interesting too the Tal's statement during th after-game analisys He thought that both choiced a lot of second hand moves (!), and were not very brilliant till the combination..... |
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Dec-17-11
 | | GrahamClayton: Amazing position after 34. ♖a8:
 click for larger viewThe Black bishop simultaneously threatens 3 white pieces, but can only capture 1 due to being pinned by 2 of those pieces. |
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Sep-30-12 | | LIFE Master AJ: Tremendous game of chess ... |
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Dec-13-13 | | jonie: the crosspin! what a combination!... |
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Nov-07-14 | | Owl: There's a William Steinitz game very similar to this one. Does someone have it? |
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Nov-08-14 | | ljfyffe: Steinitz-Gunsberg game 7, where Qd5 takes black's R on a8 to advance a centre duo is somewhat similar in theme(1890). |
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Nov-08-14 | | ljfyffe: <1d4 d5 2c4 dxc4 3Nf3 Nf6 4e3 e6 5Bxc4 Bb4+
6Nc3 0-0 70-0 b6 8Ne5 Bb7 9Qb3 Bxc3 10bxc3 Bd5 11Bxd5 exd5 12Ba3 Re8 13c4 c5 14Rac1
Ne4 15Rfd1 cxd4 16exd4 f6 17cxd5 fxe5 18d6+
Kh8 19Qd5 Nxf2 20Rd2 Nd7 21Rxf2 Nf6 22Rxf6
gxf6 23d7 Rg8 24dxe5 Rg5 25Qxa8 Qxa8 26Rc8+ Rg8 27Rxa8 Rxa8 28e6> |
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Nov-09-14 | | Owl: No thats not it |
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Jul-26-15 | | Abdel Irada: The cross-pin tactic was of course wonderful, and vintage Tal, but to me the really instructive part of the game was positional: Tal's long series of rook maneuvers. First, he demonstrated that an attack need not always keep material on the board. Sometimes a timely exchange is the best means of seizing control of vital lines to invade the enemy camp, because it removes the opponent's ability to challenge the key open file(s). Then, after the cross-pinning combination, he uses his rook to probe Black's weaknesses, beginning with 38. Rc8 (threatening 39. Rc6+, winning the pinned knight), and continuing with 39. Rc3. Finally, after cutting off the enemy king's retreat with 42. a4, he meets the counterattacking 42. ...Nd5 with the calm retreat 43. Rc1, putting the rook where it can continue to maneuver without meeting further impediments from Black's minor pieces. Without these well-conceived rook maneuvers, I think it's fair to say he would not have been able to justify his positional sacrifice of two pieces for rook by taking proper advantage of Black's exposed king. ∞ |
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Feb-07-17 | | clement41: Dazzling pin-based tactics. This perhaps inspired Karjakin vs Kosteniuk, 2003 |
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Feb-07-17
 | | HeMateMe: man, with Tal you can follow it for awhile, and then your head gets sore... 42.a4! The trap is sealed.
The quiet moves are the hardest to find. |
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Feb-07-17
 | | perfidious: <WhiteRook48: why does his Tarrasch start 1 Nf3 Nf6 2 c4 c5?> Tal very often opened 1.Nf3 when in the mood for queenside openings to avoid such lines as the Gruenfeld and the Nimzo-Indian defences. As far as it goes, the position after White's sixth move could easily be reached via 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5 4.e3 Nf6 5.Nf3 e6 6.a3. |
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Jul-14-19 | | notyetagm: Game Collection: REMOVING THE GUARD OF A CHK SQ FROM MINED SQ |
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