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| Sep-30-05 | | The beginner: I saw until
25 Qg5+ then if black plays ..Ke8 could not see anything further, so i disregarded it. then i went on with c3 instead. c3 is not a bad move eather, as it will force the queen away, and white can start a counter attack, but it is obviusly not as good as Rxe5 |
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| Sep-30-05 | | The beginner: Maybe tal saw this already at move 19 :)
19 fxe6 ..Bxe6 ?
20 Nd5+ ..Bxd5
21 exd5 leading to the position the puzzle start at.
Better would proberly be
19 ..fxe6, because white cant play Nd5+ here, or he will simply lose the knight to exN. In fact i find it very weird why he take with the Bishop. When black take with the Bishop, he loses the Bishop pair. If he take with the pawn 19 ..fxe6 he keeps his pawn shield in front of his king intact, and also his pawn structure is better (no double pawns on f file) On the other hand taking with the Bishop creates a momentary threat (the bishop is pointing towards the white king position) But after Nd5+ he is forced to give it up. If he move the king out of check instead of taking the knight. White will exchange bishops Bxe5 ..fxe5.
And kaboom Nb6 forking Rook, and Queen, white wins Rook for knight, and should have and easely won game from here on. I am most likely wrong in my analys of the situation, but please if someone can tell me why i will be very glad :) |
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| Sep-30-05 | | EmperorAtahualpa: I had the first move again, but didn't see 27.Be6! |
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| Sep-30-05 | | OsmanAnwar: Hey has anyone considered the move 24)c3, Trapping the black queen,...the only two squares the black queen can move are 24)..c4 or 24)..a4 after which white can play 25)Re4...and the black queen is gone....Plz Comment |
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| Sep-30-05 | | HastyMover: <OsmanAnwar> that is what I was thinking. 24)c3 kills the black queen. |
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| Sep-30-05 | | The beginner: <Osmananwar, hastyMover> Black does not lose his Queen because he can blocade the threat from the rook with his b pawn. 24 c3 ..Qa4
25 Re4 ..b4
Although 24 c3 is not a bad move, white is already winning since move 19 A posibel continuation
26 cxb4 ..axb4
27 Rxb4 ..Queen moves away from the threat, best to stay on the a file to keep the preasure on white. White has won a pawn. However here it may be a litle dangerous for white.
a,b, and c file are open, black has Queen, Bishop, and two rooks pointing towards the white king position, so it may not be so simple even white is a pawn up. |
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| Sep-30-05 | | Saruman: After 27.Be6! Rc7 28.Qd8+ Kg7 29.Qxc7 Rf8 30.Rf1 black has to beware of 31.Rxf7+ Kg6 32.Bf5+ Kg5 33.Qe7+ Kh5 34.Rxh7#. Anyways black is lost whatever he replies. |
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| Sep-30-05 | | BreakOnThru: man i found the right move in 5 seconds. Mainly because I looked at who was playing white, saw that it was Tal, and immediately thought, "this move is going to involve a sacrifice". Didnt bother thinking through the continuations exactly, but thought that if he captured with d-pawn then could advance pawn to give check then probably advance it again the next move. Or that if he captured the rook with the f-pawn then give check with ...Qg5+ |
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| Sep-30-05 | | YouRang: I missed it. I thought for SURE it had to be a queen trap. Never really considered a mating attack. :( I keep telling myself: "Learn to think like Tal. Learn to think like Tal." |
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| Sep-30-05 | | zb2cr: First Friday puzzle in three weeks that I've gotten. Very clever of Tal to break Black's mate threat by taking the Bishop as well as opening the way for the Queen to strike! |
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| Sep-30-05 | | Philidor: I agree with you, <erikcu>. The finishing line here is quite obvious, but I too seem to think better while under the pressure of time.
Anyway, this is a beautiful deathblow by the Magician from Riga. |
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| Sep-30-05 | | Koster: When I saw it ws Tal, I was sure it was the rook sac. 10...Bxe6 was terrible, loses tactically and positionally. Every russian schoolboy knows the pawn has to recapture in such positions. |
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Sep-30-05
 | | al wazir: <latebishop: In the line beginning 25...Ke8 26.Qf6 Rg8 White also can play 27.Bd7+! Kxd7 28.Qxf7+ Kc8 29.Qxg8+ Kb7 30.Qxh7+ Rc7 31.Qd3 and White will win with his kingside pawns. Have I missed anything here?> I think you're right, it's a win. But I see now that after 27. Qxd6 black has to play 27...Rg6, giving back the exchange, in order to prevent 28. Bd7+ Kd8 29. Bc6+ Kc8 30. Qd7+ Kb8 31. Qb7#. So either way white wins two pawns (and the Tal sacrifice turns out to be a pseudo-sacrifice!). |
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| Sep-30-05 | | brainzugzwang: I must be missing something. In the line played in the game, what happens on 26... Kg8 (instead of Rg8)? When trying to solve this, I saw the line as played, but didin't see anything that wonderful after 26... Kg8. Maybe 27. Qd8+ followed by Qxd6 and Qxe5 and pushing the d-pawn home? |
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| Sep-30-05 | | kevin86: A nasty finish! The rooks can defend...but at a price:27...♖g7 28 ♕d8# or 27...♖c7 28 ♕d8+ and catches said rook. |
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| Sep-30-05 | | thesonicvision: 24...dxe5 25. d6+ Kd8
how does white refute this defense? |
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| Sep-30-05 | | The beginner: <brainzugzwang>
27 Qd8 is the right idea but to early :)
26 ..kg8
27 Be6
threateing mate in 1
27 ..Rc7 (forced)
and now
28 Qd8+ wins the rook
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| Sep-30-05 | | joeaverage: Just a tangent, but did anyone think about 27. ..Rxd5 threatening mate with Rxd1 or Qe1 if white plays Rxd5? Rxd5 also kills the Qxh8+ idea because after Ke7, I don't think white can prevent the mate. So white would have to play Rc1 or Rf1 and the counterattack is pretty much squashed. |
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| Sep-30-05 | | c o r e: Like <BreakOnThru>, I found the first move very quickly- mostly based on the assumption that it would involve a sac (and at least a couple of !'s if it were casually analyzed.) I'm reluctant to say that I 'solved' this one- nor did it elude me. I just felt lazy today. :) |
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| Sep-30-05 | | brainzugzwang: <The beginner> But if 26... Kg8, the f-pawn is no longer pinned by the queen, so if 27.Be6 fxe6 28.dxe6 Rc7 (to defnd against the new mate threat) 29.Qd8+ followed by 30.Qxc7+ and material is even. Granted, I'm not sure Black can reasonably stop the e-pawn, esp. with the queen on the seventh, but this still seems to put up more resistance than the game continuation. |
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| Oct-01-05 | | The beginner: <brainzugzwang>
Yes sorry you are corect, the f pawn is not pinned by the Queen in my variation, so it wont be so simple as i made it out to be, sorry for that :) Anyway the variation given by you seems to be correct Maybe
26 ..Kg8
27 Be6 ..fxe6
28 dxe6 ..Rc7
29 Qd8 picking up the Rook, and i dont think black can stop the e pawn now. Or 29 Rf1 may be even better than Qd8. threatening mate on Qf8, i dont think black can stop that. 29 Rf1 ..d5 (..h6 30 Rf7 also leads to mate)
30 Qd8+ Kg7
31 Qg5 mate.
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| Oct-07-05 | | patzer2: Tal's 24. Rxe5+! is a positional exchange sacrfice, which he quickly converts to a win. |
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| Oct-15-05 | | Saruman: <brainzugzwang> if 26.-Kg8 27.Be6 fxe6 28.Rf1 mates. |
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| Jun-23-08 | | ChessYouGood: black getz what he deserves in this game - the king can't last in the centre against the great one |
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| Jun-01-15 | | MindCtrol9: 14.Ne2 gives Tal's Queen activity.The black King in the center, the target on e6 make black's game very uncomfortable.Black move Bh6+ was no good, I think. |
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