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Mario Lanzani vs Ian Rogers
"Take a Rook at That" (game of the day Sep-23-2004)
Nuoro (1984), Nuoro ITA, Dec-??
Budapest Defense: Rubinstein Variation (A52)  ·  0-1



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Sep-23-04  Marco65: <RisingChamp> Any mistakes except for 2...e5 of course :-) Jokes apart, what was White's mistake? It seems to me he's already lost after 14.O-O
Sep-23-04  acirce: <KingRah> White does survive after 22.Bxg1 Qg5?? 23.Bf1, Black should first play 22..Nxd3. Then on 23.Qxd3, Qg5 wins.
Sep-23-04  crafty: 21. ... ♖xg1+ 22. ♕xg1 ♘xd3 23. ♖b1 ♕f7 24. ♗f4 ♘xf4   (eval -6.00; depth 14 ply; 1000M nodes)
Sep-23-04  KingRah: Thanks to Acirce and crafty. I cleared my message inadvertently
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  Willem Wallekers: 10.Qd3 could be better,
see for example
I Rogers vs N Miezis, 2004
Rogers must have known what he was doing,
or (just a simul but anyway)
Shirov vs Dominique Bang, 2001
Sep-23-04  Elrathia Kingi: White's mistake is making his main force the passed pawn. He uses all of his army to protect it, but that only allows black to develop and protect. When the pawn is finally exchanged (9.exf6), black is already in attack mode, and white loses a tempo.
Sep-23-04  yax: What about 21. f4??
Sep-23-04  Marco65: <yax> 21.f4 Qg7 22.Rg1 Bg2+ and mate
Sep-23-04  Marco65: <yax> sorry you have 22.Qxh5+ I should have checked better before
Sep-23-04  Marco65: <yax> 21.Bg2+ Kg1 22.Bf3+ wins the queen
Sep-23-04  yax: you are right. for a second there I thought I was a chess genius.
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  kevin86: This one looked like an easy one-but at least three thought that Rg1 was a crushing-not a crushed one! Usually the player on the move resigns-but it is not required to be on the move to do so. I was fooled at first until the final position-when I saw the 0-1.
Sep-23-04  themindset: <Elrathia Kingi> actually, white did not make a mistake that soon, it's all theory, including 9.exf6. the first error was playing the queen back to d1 rather than playing Qd3 as noted above (and which is current theory, based largely on this game)
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  patzer2: Here is my expanded analysis of 21...Rxg1+!, with White's three possible replies 22. Qxg1 or 22. Bxg1 or 22. Kxg1:

(A.) 21...Rxg1+! <22. Qxg1 Nxd3!> 23. Rb1 Qf7 24. Bf4 Nxf4 25. exf4 Qxf4 26. Qd1 Qg5 27. Qg1 Qf5 28. Qd1 Qg6 29. Qg1 Bg2+ 30. Kh2 h3 31. Rb5 (31. Rxb7 Ne5! 32. Rb8+ Kg7 33. Qd1 Nxf3+ ) 31...a6 32. Rd5 Ne5 33. Rxe5 dxe5

(B.) 21...Rxg1+! <22. Bxg1 Nxd3!> (not 22...Qg5? 23. Bf1 as noted by Acirce) 23. Qxd3 (23. f4 Nxf2+! ; 23. Kh2 Nce5! ; 23. Rc2 Qg5! ) 23...Qg5!

(C.) 21...Rxg1+! <22. Kxg1 Qg5+!> 23. Bg3 (23. Kh1 Qg2#) 23...hxg3 24. Bf1 gxf2+ 25. Kxf2 Qh4+!! 26. Ke2 Ne4! 27. Qe1 (27. fxe4 Bg4+ ) 27...Ng3+ 28. Kd1 Bxf1

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  prn: patzer2 (or anybody): What about (A.) 21...Rxg1+! <22. Qxg1 Nxd3!> 23. Rb1 Qf7 24. f4 ? (That's punctuation, not annotation.:)) If Nxf4 then 25. Bxf4 and what does Black do then?
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  patzer2: <prn> After (A.) 21...Rxg1+! <22. Qxg1 Nxd3!> 23. Rb1 Qf7 <24. f4 Nce5! >, black wins easily.

Play could continue 25. Bg3 (25. f3 Nxf3 26. Qd1 Nxf2#) 25...Nf3 26. Qd1 Nde1 27. Qxe1 (27. Bxh4 Bg2#) 27...Nxe1 28. Bxh4 (28. Rxe1 hxg3 ) 28...Qg6 29. Bg3 Qe4+ 30. Kh2 Qg2#.

Sep-23-04  ConspTheory06: <RisingChamp> Arice is right if you play 22...Qg5 right away black gets screwed by 23.Bf1 but after 22...Nxd3 black is ahead.
Sep-23-04  ajile: After black doubled white's pawns and castled his superior and smooth development are great compensation for a pawn. Killer rook sac which nets a Knight and pawn for the rook and opens white's king to a lethal attack.
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  patzer2: Black's 17...Rxf3!! is a nice "demolition of pawn structure" combination to take advantage of Black's initiative.
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  samvega: I was thinking white may have been wrong to take the rook with the pawn. e.g 18.Qxf3 followed by Qxh5+ after either of 18..Nxd3 or Or 18.Qxf3 Bg4 19.Qd5. Not appealing, but perhaps better than the actual game . . .
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  patzer2: After 20...Rg8!, White has nothing better than losing via 21. Rg1 Rxg1! , as the following alternatives illustrate.

[21. f4 Bg2+ 22. Kg1 Bf3+ drops the White Queen as noted by <Marco 65>]

[21. Bf4 Bg2+ 22. Kh2 (22. Kg1 Bxf3+ ) 22...Qe6! and White cannot avoid mate]

[21. Re1 Qg5 22. Be5+ Nxe5 23. Rg1 Bg2+ 24. Kh2 Ncxd3 25. f4 Nxf4 26. Rb1 Qg3+ 27. fxg3 hxg3#]

[21. Bg3 Bxf1 22. Bxf1 hxg3 is another easy Black win]

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  patzer2: <samvega> Good call on 18. Qxf3!? After 18...Bg5 19. Qd5 Be6 20. Qxg5 Qxg5 21. hxg5 Nxd3 22. Rc2 Bxc4 23. Rd1 Re8 to , Black may have enough to win but will have to work a lot harder than after 18. gxf3.
Sep-24-04  RisingChamp: yes I completely forgot abt that! thanx acirce.<Marco>Lol.Imagine my annonating a game 1 e4 c5? blacks first mistake.Doesnt make sense to call an established opening a mistake!
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  patzer2: <Willen Wallekers> Thanks for the game links and the tip on 10. Qd3! Amazing the impact a single opening move can make. Seeing Rogers playing the Budapest from the White side in 2004 is almost like seeing him refute his own play in this game.
Sep-24-04  RisingChamp: Ian Rogers is one of the leading experts and mostr frequent GM players of this opening.He knows it as well as anybody else.The theory changed as a result of this game and Rogers novelty Kh8.
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