Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

Chessgames premium membership fee will increase to $39 per year effective June 15, 2023. Enroll Now!

Jacques Mieses vs Leo Forgacs
St. Petersburg (1909), St. Petersburg RUE, rd 6, Feb-22
Scotch Game: Göring Gambit. Declined (C44)  ·  1-0



explore this opening
find similar games 4 more J Mieses/L Forgacs games
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: Help with kibitzing features can be found on our Kibtizing Help Page.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.

Kibitzer's Corner
Premium Chessgames Member
  Chnebelgrind: and 14.♗d2
Oct-05-10  Sem: I found the move, but at first didn't see QxR.
Nov-01-14  john barleycorn: Lasker in the tournament "ST. Petersburg 1909" book gave: 13....Be7 14.Bd2 winning.

Tarrasch in "Die moderne Schachpartie" ranks this game regarding the tactical oversight with these two:

Von Popiel vs G Marco, 1902

Steinitz vs Janowski, 1896

According to Tarrasch Black should play
13....Bd6 because if 14.Bd2 Bxf3 and taking the BQ on a5 while trying to preserve the WQ is not a good idea:

15.Bxa5 Nxd4 16.Qe3 Nxe2+ 17.Kh1 Rh5 and white cannot avoid being mated.

If white doesn't capture the WQ after Bxf3 Black could counterattack with Rb5.

Tarrasch considers this line best for black:
14....Bxf3 15.Bxa5 Nxd4 16.Bxf3 Nxb3 17.Bxd5 Nxa5
Black loses the exchange but is able to put up some resistance.

Must have been a feat for Tarrasch to reassess Lasker's commentary...

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.
  8. Do not degrade Chessgames or any of it's staff/volunteers.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.

NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
11...Nd5?! and 12...Rxd5? led to forced loss of material.
from Accidents in the opening by Honza Cervenka
Round 6
from St Petersburg 1909 by Archives
Game collection: 4
by ph2ca
Game collection: 2
by gr2ca1
13 moves
from Chess Miniatures, Collection IX by wwall
Round 6
from St Petersburg 1909 by JoseTigranTalFischer
April, p. 80 [Game 84 / 1620]
from American Chess Bulletin 1909 by Phony Benoni
11...Nd5?! and 12...Rxd5? led to forced loss of material.
from Accidents in the opening by trh6upsz
11...Nd5?! and 12...Rxd5? led to forced loss of material.
from Accidents in the opening by sahirnow
13 moves
from Chess Miniatures, Collection IX by Okavango
Round 6
from St Petersburg 1909 by Mal Un

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2023, Chessgames Services LLC