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| Jan-21-10 | | Jason Frost: I don't understand this either.
33. (or 32) Bb3+ Qxb3 34. Rxb3 e3 (to stop Qg5+) 35. Rb4! and pawns will fall I don't understand how this is a draw |
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| Jan-21-10 | | mertangili: <Jason Frost> In your line, what about 34... Rg7 or Rf7 (with the idea of Rf5 in case of Qg5+) to stop the queen check by activating the pieces rather than weakining the passed pawns? (also note that Rf7 limits the activity of queen as there are now back rank mate and doubling the rooks on the f-file threats) Although the final position is open to many complications that I could not forsee, I belive white did the right thing taking the draw. |
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| Jan-21-10 | | newzild: The poisoned pawn is the theoretically strongest variation for black in the Bg5 Najdorf, but personally I've had terrible results with it. Most of my wins have been sheer flukes. It requires very deep opening preparation, which is not a forte with me. I can't remember this line properly any more, but I think black should play 17...Qxa2. |
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| Jan-21-10 | | shalgo: <33. (or 32) Bb3+ Qxb3 34. Rxb3 e3 (to stop Qg5+) 35. Rb4! and pawns will fall> I don't see how white will win the central pawns in this line. After 35...Rd7 36.Qd1 Ke5 how does White make any progress? It is very complicated, with no clear path to an advantage for White. And if he slips up, those pawns are going to start marching forward. Under these circumstances, it is not surprising that the kid took the draw. |
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| Jan-21-10 | | eaglewing: <Jason Frost: 33. Bb3+ Qxb3 34. Rxb3 e3 (to stop Qg5+) 35. Rb4!> A defense against Qc4+ is given by Rd7. However, I would be more concerned about 34. Rxb3 e3 35. Qf1. But I think there are better options to organise the Black figures in move 34. Looking for rook exchange with Rb7 might draw. Rf8 might hold due to the counterthreat. And a5 disallows Rb4. It is difficult to judge but it looks to me I would prefer Black, trying to double rooks, possibly exchanging rooks and then the central King might conquer the pawn c5. After all, Kasparov did not want to play this line, I suggest, there is a reason. |
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| Jan-21-10 | | ChessKnightsOfLondon: With Blacks passed pawns White is sensible to get perpetual. On another note the most amazing move of the game is 18. nxf6+ especially being 2 pawns down. Most players would not take this risk. |
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| Jan-21-10 | | Chessmensch: Fritz 12 assesses this a draw with best play but a win for black in other lines. |
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| Jan-21-10 | | Smothered Mate: Hiarcs 12.1 d=20
d=21 ( 0.00)
33. Qg5+ Kc4 34. Qc1+ Kd5
d=21 (-0.15)
33. Bb3+ Qxb3 34. Rxb3 e3 35. Rb4 Rd7
36. Qa1 Ke5 37. Rb3 Ke6 38. Qb1 Rf8 |
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| Jan-21-10 | | goodevans: <pericles of athens: wow. i figured it out. the move of the match for me. my goodness what vision from special k. 28. c5+ is just brilliant.> I had a quick look to see if black could avoid the perpetual by retreating his king, but the presence of the Pc5 is crucial in putting a stop to that, e.g. <33 Qg5+ Ke6 34 Qg6+ Ke7 35 Qd6+>. Without this pawn I think black can escape the perpetual, e.g. <35 Qg7+ Qf7 36 Qe5+ Kd7> and without the Pc5 that would be just about it (37 Qxh8? Qf1#). |
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| Jan-21-10 | | WhiteRook48: how about 35 Bb3+ |
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| Jan-21-10 | | WhenHarryMetSally: dumb luck.
I don't know anything about chess, but even to me it seems that Rashkovsky was very very lucky to get away with a draw in this game. He was all over the place. Playing as black and a move behind his pieces were dramatically undeveloped. Kasparov is a master at limiting your development, and keeping the black queen out of the action on white's kingside, as well as pinning the black light squared bishop out of the whole game. Rashovsky was essentially a bishop down for the whole game, and he managed to pull off a draw! Bad playing by black without any stretch of the imagination. Kasparov will be kicking himself for not being able to get a win. limit opposition movement. look for weaknesses. divide and conquer. |
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Jan-21-10
 | | ajk68: I think the correct material evaluation after 33.Bb3+ ends up being R+R+B+connected passers+Active king versus Q+R+weak back rank. My guess is 33.Bb3+ is completely losing. The two rooks are more powerful than the queen (although they are not well coordinated for the moment), the bishop plus passers are more powerful than the rook. If black can cause the isolated c-pawn to fall, then black has three connected passer too. |
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Jan-21-10
| | ajk68: I should have also mentioned black as an outside passed pawn (relatively weak as an isolated rook pawn). |
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| Jan-21-10 | | Qnation: I don't understand 18.Nxf6. Can someone give me a hand and explain why it's not just giving away a knight? |
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| Jan-21-10 | | ajile: I guess it wasn't such a "Rash" decision if Black draws against White is it? Oh and by the way White is KASPAROV. |
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Jan-22-10
 | | kevin86: What's going on here? True,white has a fork,but it does not lead to a win-just an even position. I guess this game was played among three leaf plants-and the players both got a rash. |
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| Jan-22-10 | | lost in space: <Oh and by the way White is KASPAROV> In 1979 KASPAROV was relatively unknown. So this is not the reason. |
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| Jan-22-10 | | ajile: <lost in space: <Oh and by the way White is KASPAROV>
In 1979 KASPAROV was relatively unknown. So this is not the reason.> But Kasparov was Maroczy in his previous life so I win. |
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| Jan-22-10 | | TheChessGuy: Nah. Maróczy was more positional and technical. Garry Kasparov was Adolf Anderssen during the 19th century. |
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| May-03-13 | | GilesFarnaby: 32...Qxd1 should be winning for black |
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May-03-13
 | | perfidious: <GilesFarnaby: 32...Qxd1 should be winning for black> Is this all that clear? Doesn't seem so to me after 33.Qxd1, as 33....Kxc5 34.Qc2+ Kd6 (34....Kd5 35.Qb3+ Kd6 36.Qg3+) 35.Qxe4 looks better for White instead. After 33.Qxd1, Black can step aside another way with 33....Ke5, which looks far from clear. If those centre pawns are able to march with impunity, your initial evaluation is probably correct, but Black's king is exposed and his pieces not yet coordinated. |
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| May-10-13 | | GilesFarnaby: <perfidious: Is this all that clear? [...]> You are right; I was too hasty with my comment and didn't see that after ...Kxc5 white has the manoeuvre Qc2+ Qb3+ Qg3+, getting Rc7. So, black has to play 34...Kd5, as you stated, and according to my engine that's a draw. |
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| Sep-09-18 | | JoseCapablanca: Hello everyone!
It seems the crucial move for Kasparov was 24.Qg6, which leads to a draw. 24.Qg3! wins, since it takes away d6 as an effective escape square (24.Qg3 Kd6 25.Rd1+! where Black's best is 25. ... QxR+; 25. ... Bd4?? 26.Rxd4+, mate follows; 25. ... Ke7 26.Qg7+, mate follows). |
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| Sep-09-18 | | WorstPlayerEver: Nukhim should have dropped the h-bomb:
20... h4 21. Qd3 Qa5 22. Kh1 Qc5 23. Bh5+ Rxh5 24. Qg6+ Kd7 25. Qxh5 and Black wins. Poor Kasparov. 
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| Sep-09-18 | | WorstPlayerEver: PS 25... e4 26. Qh7 Ra7 27. Rf7 Rb7
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25... e4 26. Qh7 Ra7 27. Qxe4 Kd8 28. Qg4 Rd7 29. Qxe6 Kc7 
click for larger view30. Qe1 a5 31. Rbf3 Ba6 32. Rf5 Qb4 33. Qe5+ Kc8 
click for larger view34. Qxa5 Qxa5 35. Rxa5 Bxc4 36. Rc1 Bd8
click for larger viewThe h4 pawn is nicely protected by the Bishop:
37. Ra8+ Kb7 38. Rxd8 Rxd8 39. Rxc4 Rd1#
click for larger viewTherefore: 37. Ra8+ Kb7 38. Ra4 Bd5 39. h3 Kb6 40. Rb1+ Kc5 41. Kg1 Kd6 
click for larger view42. Rb2 c5 43. Rc2 Bg5 44. Rg4 Rg7 45. Kh1 Be6 46. Ra4 Rb7 and White's position looks like goat cheese. 
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