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| Jul-03-18 | | Howard: In his excellent, and thought-provoking book, Art of Chess Analysis,
Timman points out a much flashier win that Karpov had on the 32nd move, though I don't recall the details. Timman states, however, that Karpov preferred just to play "forceful, prosaic moves" to wrap up the win. Typical Karpov!! |
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Jul-03-18
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"While we in the press room were occupying ourselves with the spectacular <33.Nxe5>, which we thought nicely decides matters after <33...Qc7!> (Timman) <34.Bf4 Nc5 35.Qc4 fxe5 36.Bh6+ Kxh6 37.Rxf8 Nd7 38.Rh8+ Kg5 39.Qe6! Nf6 40.g3!> (Tal), or <37...Be7 38.Qf7 Qd6 39.Rh8+ Kg5 40.Re8 Bd8 41 h4+! Kxh4 42.Rxd8 Qxd8 43.Qxg6> (Hort), Karpov mercilessly made his final, prosaic moves. Later, our rushed analysis was indeed shown to be faulty. Black wins with <43...Qg5> in the last position (after 43.Qxg6). The right way is <40.Qf2> (instead of 40.Re8) with the crushing threat 41.h4+ Kg4 42.Qg3#. After the forced <40...Qd3>, White wins with <41.h4+ Kg4 42.Rg8 Qxe4 43.Qg3+ Kf5 44.Qxg6+ Kf4 45.Qf7+>." ;) |
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Jul-03-18
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click for larger view
White to move
1) +6.52 (36 ply) <33.Rd1 Nb8 34.Bc5> Qf7 35.Qxf7+ Rxf7 36.Rxd8 Rb7 37.Nd2 Nd7 38.Be3 f5 39.exf5 gxf5 40.Nc4 f4 41.Bg1 Nf6 42.Nxe5 Rxb2 43.Bd4 c5 44.Bxc5 Ra2 45.Bd4 Ne4 46.Nd3+ Kf7 47.Nxf4 Rxa4 48.Rd5 Nd2 49.Rxh5 Nf1+ 50.Kg1 Ng3 51.Rh7+ Ke8 52.Ra7 Nf5 53.Be5 Re4 54.Rxa5 Kd7 55.g4 Ne3 56.Kf2 5.0 minute analysis by Stockfish 9 v01021 |
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Jul-03-18
| | whiteshark: Timman's move <33.Nxe5>:
click for larger viewBlack to move
1) +1.40 (31 ply) <33...Qc7 34.Bf4> g5 35.Rd1 Nc5 36.Qf5 gxf4 37.Qg6+ Kh8 38.Nd7 f3+ 39.g3 Ne6 40.Qxh5+ Kg7 41.Qxf3 Ng5 42.Qg4 Rh8 43.Nxf6 Qe5 44.Nh5+ Kg6 45.Nf4+ Kf7 46.h4 Qxe4 47.Rd7+ Ke8 48.Rxd8+ Kxd8 49.Qxg5+ Kc8 50.Qxa5 Rd8 51.b4 Rd7 52.Kh3 Qh1+ 53.Kg4 Qe1 54.Qa8+ Kc7 55.Qa7+ Kc8 56.Qa6+ Kc7 57.b5 Qxc3 58.Qa7+ Kc8 59.Qa8+ Kc7 60.bxc6 Qxc6 2) +3.22 (31 ply) 33...Qe7 34.Qxe7+ Bxe7 35.Nxc6 Bd6+ 36.Kh1 Bc7 37.b4 Re8 38.Bd4 Rxe4 39.b5 Nb8 40.Bxf6+ Kg8 41.b6 Bg3 42.Nxb8 Bxb8 43.Bd4 Re2 44.Kg1 Ra2 45.Rf6 Rxa4 46.Rxg6+ Kf7 47.Rh6 Bg3 48.Kf1 h4 49.b7 Ra2 50.Rb6 Bb8 51.Bf6 Rc2 52.Bxh4 a4 53.Rf6+ Ke8 3) +3.98 (31 ply) 33...Qb8 34.Qd7+ Kg8 35.Bf4 Nc5 36.Qd4 Bc7 37.Nxg6 Bxf4+ 38.Rxf4 Kg7 39.Qxc5 Kxg6 40.e5 Rf7 41.b4 fxe5 42.Qxc6+ Kg7 43.Rxf7+ Kxf7 44.Qe4 axb4 45.cxb4 Kf6 46.a5 Qb5 47.Kg3 Kg5 48.Kf2 Kf6 49.Kf3 Ke7 50.Kg3 Kd6 51.a6 Qc6 52.Qf5 Qc3+ 53.Kh4 Qxb4+ 54.g4 Qb8 55.gxh5 Qd8+ 56.Kg4 Kc5 57.h6 Qe7 58.h7 Qg7+ 59.Kh5 Kb5 6.0 minute analysis by Stockfish 9 v010218
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So acc. to the maschine Karpov's move was way better than Timman's tactical strike. |
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| Jul-05-18 | | ZonszeinP: This game is one of my favorites ever.
Yet i find the Fischer-Olafson game quoted by <keypusher> on page 1 perhaps even more beautiful |
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| Jul-05-18 | | RookFile: Spassky had been previously sucessful with this opening against Karpov. Therefore, he should have chosen a different one. That's the way Fischer did it. Always be a moving target, don't play into the opponent's prep. |
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| Jul-05-18 | | ewan14: When he played Spassky in 1972 certainly
;no Grunfeld Defence ( 2 losses to Spassky and one to Petrosian ) and no Kings Indians |
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| Jul-06-18 | | RookFile: Right. You can be sure Spassky was well prepared for both of those choices. |
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| Aug-09-18 | | malt: Good game, me thinks 35...R:d8 36.Be7 |
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Aug-09-18
 | | harrylime: Boris was not into this match....
A Good Boris v A Good Karpov
Boris wins |
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| Nov-20-18 | | Mini Morphy: Beautiful end! |
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Nov-20-18
 | | HeMateMe: great pun! |
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| Apr-09-19 | | Everett: <30.Ng5> looks quite awkward to meet. <30.Ng5 fxg5 31.Rxf8 Kxf8 32.Qe6> looks pretty rough, with Rf2 or Rd2 coming. |
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| Oct-27-19 | | GrenfellHunt: Is there something wrong with the game score? At move 23 White plays the subtle Rf1 (+1.4 engine), but Stockfish wants the obvious Bc5 which wins the exchange (+2.4 at depth of 28). If it's not a mistake in the score, what was Karpov thinking that he declined Bc5? |
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| Oct-27-19 | | GrenfellHunt: Okay. CG's computer eval has the same note. 23 Rf1 gets flagged with ? for not playing Bc5. Still would like to know what was going through Karpov's head that he declined to play such an obvious move. |
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| Oct-27-19 | | ewan14: Boris played a '' creeping move '' against Victor in their 1968 match |
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| Nov-02-19 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: It is true that White can win the exchange, but after 23 Bc5 Qg5
24 Rd7 Nxc2
25 Rb1
Black has a pawn in compensation and after winning the exchange, White will no longer have a bishop to attack Black's king. |
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| Oct-05-20 | | fisayo123: 24. Nb1! Typical Karpovian knight sorte! Moves like this are very difficult for even the best players in the world to contemplate yet Karpov made such moves routine over the course of his career. |
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| Oct-05-20 | | fisayo123: What Karpov did to Spassky in this game is fully comparable if not superior to what Fischer did to him in game 6 of their match. You'll struggle to see a great player like Spassky so badly routed . |
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Oct-08-20
 | | woldsmandriffield: 26..Na6 was the losing move - Black had to try 26..Rxd2 27 Nxd2 Nc2. Karpov’s continuation after 26.. Na6? is startling: he simply played 27 Re2! making way for Nb1-d2-f3 then he went back with Rd2 & penetrated with Qe6. When he saw 27 Re2 Spassky must have realised the game was up. |
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| Oct-30-20 | | Ulhumbrus: Karpov may have not said - at least in any book or interview in English - whether Fischer's move 13 Rf2 in the game Fischer vs F Olafsson, 1961 provided the inspiration for Karpov's manoeuvre 14 Rf2 clearing the back rank for the queen to come to f1 |
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| Dec-02-20 | | Justin796: Someone should have checked out Karpov's chair, this game is suspect. Also, the amount of mind control Karpov's parapsychologsists exerted on Spassky is simply unforgiveable. |
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| Dec-03-20 | | Ulhumbrus: <Justin796: Someone should have checked out Karpov's chair, this game is suspect. Also, the amount of mind control Karpov's parapsychologsists exerted on Spassky is simply unforgiveable.> One example of an alternative explanation is found in the previous game in which Spassky started a promising looking attack but which Karpov succeeded in drawing. Kasparov quotes Tal as saying <The match was effectively concluded in the 8th game, when Spassky was unable to win it. Personally I didn't doubt for a second that after White began his attack with 24 h6 the game would soon come to a spectacular end. But after 25...Nf6 (Karpov made this move quickly) no win could be found! Such a blow is even greater than a defeat. When such positions cannot be won, you begin to lose confidence. All sorts of devilish thoughts creep into your mind, such as: is it altogether impossible to win against him?> If this worsened Spassky's playing form for the present game it could have improved Karpov's playing form for the present game. |
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| Dec-05-20 | | Ulhumbrus: <Justin796: Someone should have checked out Karpov's chair, this game is suspect. Also, the amount of mind control Karpov's parapsychologsists exerted on Spassky is simply unforgiveable.> One example of an alternative explanation is found in the previous game Spassky vs Karpov, 1974 in which Spassky started a promising looking attack but which Karpov succeeded in drawing. Kasparov quotes Tal as saying <The match was effectively concluded in the 8th game, when Spassky was unable to win it. Personally I didn't doubt for a second that after White began his attack with 24 h6 the game would soon come to a spectacular end. But after 25...Nf6 (Karpov made this move quickly) no win could be found! Such a blow is even greater than a defeat. When such positions cannot be won, you begin to lose confidence. All sorts of devilish thoughts creep into your mind, such as: is it altogether impossible to win against him?> If this worsened Spassky's playing form for the present game it could have improved Karpov's playing form for the present game. |
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| Sep-27-21 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: Compare
Yanofsky vs J F Donovan, 1942 Black's bishops and king pawn are on different squares, but Yanofsky plays Rf2 and Bg4, as did Karpov 32 years later! |
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