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Apr-29-07
 | | sleepyirv: Wow, I finally got a Sunday puzzle!Probably more luck than anything. If there isn't a pawn on G6, it's mate... working off that pin the final attack was easy to figure out. |
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| Apr-29-07 | | dzechiel: When I saw today's position, at first I thought I was still looking at yesterday's (the position of the white queen fooled me). Finally I realized that this was a new position. My gut instinct in this position is to push the g-pawn and then play something like Re3 and Rh3. Black seems so locked up on the king side that I'm wondering how he would stop this approach. The black king can't get away (he would have to move the knight first, and that would allow the mate on g7). I don't see any way for black to harass the white queen. In fact, the only move I see right away is ...Bg2 keeping the white rook off of h3. OK, now I see that after g5 the black queen will have f4 available, so that poses problems for the Re3 maneuver. Oh..., I have been looking at 21 Nf5 for the last couple of minutes. This move is looking better and better by the moment. First, it covers the g7 square in case black was thinking of playing 21...Nxf6. Second, it threatens 22 Ne7+!, which forces black to cough up the queen to stop the mate. Black can't play 21...exf5 because of 22 Rxe8! So it would seem that 21...gxf5 is forced. I like moves that are so very forcing. After 21 Nf5 gxf5 white play 22 gxf5 and the threat of 23 Rg1+ looks very tough to meet. This actually seems to easy for a Sunday puzzle and now I think that I must have overlooked something, but I don't know what it might be. It's almost like black has to try crazy stuff like 22...Bg2 and after 23 Rg1 then ...Qb7. This doesn't look like it will hold together for long. I'm going to check the solution now and post a follow up depending on the actual move. |
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| Apr-29-07 | | dzechiel: Well, I thought I might be overlooking something, and I was. I didn't see 21...Nd7 would protect the f8 rook and take the sting out of 22 Ne7+. And even if I had seen this defensive resource, it's not clear to me that I would have seen the rook capture on e6. This whole combination was really over my head, teriffic play by Pinter. |
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| Apr-29-07 | | chessmoron: Let's say Knight wasn't on e8, then White just mates with Qg7 so back to the problem and I thought 21.Nf5 and I was seeing 21...exf5 and 22.Rxe8 Rxe8 23.Qg7#. I really didn't see 21...Nd7 at all with the brilliant 22.Rxe6! |
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| Apr-29-07 | | openningspecialist: Pinter this proves why you play at a professional level and i don't. I take my hat off to you. I didn't havea hope. congrats to anyone who got it! OPS |
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Apr-29-07
 | | al wazir: I didn't get this one. After seeing the game score, I still don't get it. What about this: 21. Nc5 b3 22. c3 (22. axb3? Nxb3#) bxa2 23. Ne7+ Qxe7 24. fxe7 Nb3+ 25. Kc2 a1=N# ? |
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Apr-29-07
 | | Eggman: AW: In the above line (I assume you mean 21.Nf5 rather than 21.Nc5) after 21...b3 why not simply 22.Ne7+ rather than 22.c3? |
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| Apr-29-07 | | TrueBlue: got Nf5!!!! Of course, I expected black to take the night followed by a disaster for him! |
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| Apr-29-07 | | THE pawn: Did anyone here actually got THAT? Extremely hard.
I saw Nf5, but dismissed it in the end (and I couldn't find anything else) because I knew it wouldn't be captured and I missed the rook sac after. Terrific. |
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Apr-29-07
| | al wazir: Yes, I meant 21. Nf5. (Chess-dyslexic!) OK, 21...b3 is answered by the immediate 22. Ne7+. But what does white do after 21. Nf5 Nxd3+ 22. Rxd3 exf5 23. Re7 Be4 ? If 24. Rxc7, then 24...Bxd3, and black has ♖+♗+♘ vs. ♕. |
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Apr-29-07
| | al wazir: Oops, I can't count either. After 25. cxd3 that's only ♖ vs. ♕. OK, now I believe. |
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| Apr-29-07 | | kapabl: <al wazir> A little extra push on the rook so that it doesnt stop on the seventh! 21.Nf5 Nxd3+ 22.Rxd3 exf5 23.Rxe8, and even if Black can count better, he cant protect g7. |
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| Apr-29-07 | | MostlyAverageJoe: I had no clue here. Depressing. Oh, well, time to pick inaccuracies in the game to make myself feel better. All valuations as per HIARCS 11.1, not particularly deep. Blunder: 21. ... Nd7? (exf5 followed by Ne6 is about 4 pawns better) Huge blunder: 22... fxe6?? (Ndxf6 was about a queen-worth better) White returns the favor: 24.Bxg6+?? (Qxh7 was a queen+minor piece better) More returns: 25.Qh4+? (Bf5 was about a minor piece better). And more: 30.Bxg6? (Qg7 was another minor piece better). Now black reciprocates: 30 ... Rad8??? (enables forced mate in 5: 31. Qh4 Qc4 32. Qxc4 Nc5 33. Qe2 Kf4 34. Rf1 Kxg5 35. Qh5#). Qa7 was better. But white does not want to mate yet: 31.Qg7+?
However, black wants to end his suffering: 31... Kf4 (Rf6 was better) And now the white obliges.
The entire thing started, of course, with 19 ... Bxf7 insead of Ne8. |
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| Apr-29-07 | | Manic: I got 21.Nf5 but I did not consider the Nd7 defence. If I did, it was probably 50:50 chance that I would see 22.Rxe6!! |
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| Apr-29-07 | | MORPHY MARVELLOUS: To all the people on here who said they got it, do you mean you got every single move or just first couple, because if its the latter, then my friends you didnt get anything I'm afraid. |
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| Apr-29-07 | | ForeverYoung: Looking at this position it isn't difficult to see that if the Knight on e8 could be removed then black would be for it. I found 21 Nf5 and had 21 ... gxf5 22 Bxf5! exf5 23 Rxe8! planned. |
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| Apr-29-07 | | tallinn: Pinter will never tell us but for all those (including me) that did not see the Nd7 defense let's assume that Pinter did not see that either when playing Nf5. After all the position after Nd7 does not look overcommitted to white. He probably spend considerable time after Nd7 to find the best move (Ne7+ Kh8 Bxg6 wins as well here). He managed to find Rxe6 but got exhausted then as Joe pointed out. So the puzzle could have started a move later as well :-) And Fritz thinks that exf is superior to Nd7 making me not to notice Nd7 until I checked the solution. So what? It is sufficient to see that Nf5 cannot be taken. It is such a wonderful place for the knight one must play it. |
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| Apr-29-07 | | scholes: 21. Nf5 Nd7 22. Rxe6 fxe6 23. Ne7 Kf7 24. Bxg6 Kxf6 25. Qh4 Kg7 26.
Qxh7 Kf6 27. g5 Ke5 28. Bxe8 Be4 29. Ng6 Bxg6 30. Bxg6 Rad8 31. Qg7 Kf4 32.
Qd4 Kxg5 33. Rg1 Kh6 34. Qh4 Kg7 35. Be8 Qg3 36. Rxg3 Mate 1-0 mate only comes at the 36 move ,in between white gets ahead on material only on move nor 35 when black has to give queen to prolong the mate.So how much do these gm calculate in these type of kinghunts.Can they really calculate this far in such a complicated situation and how far is good enough Besides that pinter could have won faster at several places for example bishop sac was not necessary |
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Apr-29-07
 | | Richard Taylor: I thought I had solved this with Nf5 and missed Nd7 as a defence. But I would still have played Nf5 as I cant resist such moves...sound or not! |
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Apr-29-07
 | | paulalbert: The ideas are easy enough to spot with g7 as a focal point for mate, but visualizing the right sequence and all the defensive resources is way beyond my abilities. Nd7 as a defensive resource seemed counterintuitive to me because it cut off potential defense of g7 by Black's Q, but threatened the Pf6 bone in the throat. I was looking at Bxg6 ideas and possibly Nxe6 as well as Nf5 ideas followed by Rxe6, but once you see it, Nf5 first is the way to go. I've played something like this as a speculative sac in blitz, but am not confident in serious play, because I can't see to the end. Paul Albert |
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| Apr-29-07 | | outplayer: I saw 21.Nf5 but I didn't calculate this on. Very hard. |
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Apr-29-07
 | | playground player: Gosh, this was amazingly easy for a Sunday puzzle, I solved it in no time flat... and don't I wish a single word of this was true! |
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| Apr-29-07 | | Crowaholic: Very tough stuff, worthy of a Sunday. I finally figured out that Nf5 is pretty strong, but I didn't get Rxe6. Regarding the continuation: After 24. ♕xh7+ ♔xf6 25. ♘xg6!!, Black would have been forced to drop the Q with 25. ..♕f4+ 26. ♘xf4 to prevent g5+ ..♔xg5 ♕h4#. |
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| Apr-29-07 | | brainof7: can someone explain why are Nf5, why black cant take with the g pawn? |
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Apr-29-07
 | | Peligroso Patzer: <brainof7: can someone explain [after] Nf5, why black can't take with the g pawn?> If 21. ... gxf5, White plays 22. gxf5, and the opening of the g-file creates unstoppable threats. There is nothing immediately forcing that leads directly to mate, but the following line is representative of how play might continue: 21...gxf5 22.gxf5 Bg2 23.Rg1 Qc6 24.Rd2 Nd7 25.Rdxg2+ Qxg2 26.Rxg2+ Kh8 27.fxe6 Ndxf6 28.Qxf8+ Ng8 29.Rxg8#. |
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