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Tony Miles vs Vlastimil Hort
"Hort's So Good" (game of the day Nov-17-2012)
Amsterdam OHRA (1982), Amsterdam NED, rd 8, Jul-15
Queen Pawn Game: Veresov Atack. Veresov Variation (D01)  ·  0-1



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Dec-13-05  erimiro1: <YouRang>At least one GM (the late Anthony Miles who died only 46 yrs. old) also failed to solve the puzzle. Why? probably because the position is not common and you have to see that the 2 black rooks, that from the first sight seem harmless, can find the way to help each other to reach the white king that looks safe.
Dec-13-05  NakoSonorense: Zolvd thiz puzzle in 3 zecondz
Dec-13-05  vinohradska: I liked 13... Bxc5. White has some big choices after that move. Did he make the right one? How about 14. Qxb7? Or just accept the sac and play 14. dxc5. I can see that white is getting into trouble, after those moves, but is the trouble so bad?
Dec-13-05  YouRang: <erimiro1> No argument here.
Dec-13-05  ChessMan94: Unless I'm missing something, after white's last move, 43... Rg4+ is not mate. White can escape with 44. Ke3
Dec-13-05  YouRang: <ChessMan94> No, you're not missing anything - I overstated the bleakness of White's position earlier. However, although White can avoid immediate mate, it's going to cost him three pawns: 43...dxe4(#1) 44. Ke3 Rxf3+(#2) 45. Ke2 Rfxg3(#3), and black still enjoys the initiative.

Miles made some mistakes in this game, but resigning wasn't one of them.

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  Richard Taylor: <erimiro1: <YouRang>At least one GM (the <late> Anthony Miles who died only 46 yrs. old) also failed to solve the puzzle. Why?> Could it be that he was looking for the solution, but sadly, the solution came to him too late?
Dec-13-05  chesscrazy: I missed it! This puzzle seems like one of the hardest puzzles I have ever seen. Why not 14.dxc5? That's what I would play like <vinohradska> said. This puzzle still makes me feel confused after all that kibitzing other people did to explain the solution.
Dec-13-05  YouRang: <chesscrazy><I missed it! This puzzle seems like one of the hardest puzzles I have ever seen. Why not 14.dxc5?> You do realize that the puzzle was to find Black's winning tactic on move 42, yes? :-|
Dec-13-05  s4life: I saw it in a couple of seconds... then again, that's not always the case :)
Dec-13-05  HannibalSchlecter: I didn't find this to be a hard puzzle only because black's entry points were limited. Rooks look for files to penetrate on. The one rook is nicely placed, so we need to activate the other rook, so Rg8 seems reasonable.
Dec-13-05  TTLump: 13... Bxc5!?

NOT 14.dxc5? Nxc5, 15.Qa3 Nd3+, 16.Kd2 Nxf2 ... and black has three pawns and a sustainable seige of the white King for his bishop, ie: 17.Rg1 Qc7, 18.g3 Ng4, 19.Bg2 (NOT 19.h3 Nxe3, 20.Kxe3 Qe5+!)Nxh2, etc., with the threat of the h-pawn advancing and clearing the path for BOTH black rooks!

I think Miles played the best move in this position, 14. Nf4, giving up the pawn and consolidating his position while doubling black's a-pawn. Where I think he stumbled is 16.Qb7?? which gives up two tempo! Much better would have been 16.Nxg6 fxg5 17.Rc1, etc.

Why he didn't see the obvious 16 ... Qc8! is a mystery. Down a pawn, he must be wary of equal exchanges that dissipate his positional advantage.

Dec-13-05  DP12: Miles should probably have swaped the queens. and then traded knight for bishop. I can't imagine that black is really too much better despite being a pawn up it is after all a doubled a -pawn and the rest of blacks pawns are not so great either. Q:c8 R:c8 Ng6 f:g6 Na4 c5!?(otherwise I doubt white is worse Rc1 and Nc5) and if d:c5 Bc5 with the idea Rc1 Bb4+ Ke2 is maybe what he was thinking about and I think it is not so bad for white. But, I think that instead of Rc1 white can even take on c5 with a drawish ending
Dec-13-05  TTLump: <DP12> yes, after 16.Qb7? Qc8, the Queen swap becomes unavoidable, ... 17.Qb3? simply compounds the error, but I still think he should try to avoid the Queen swap at the outset.
Dec-14-05  ReikiMaster: Actually, <kevin86>, as Crafty showed on 1st page of kibitzing, white is helpless against losing 3 pawns!
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  patzer2: Black's 42...Rg8! creates a mating threat in pursuit of the helpless White monarch, which forces the first player to accept the decisive loss of several pawns.
Jul-27-06  McCool: The only move to hold a draw is 42. R6a7! in order to retain pressure on f7 and tie the enemy rook to f8.
Aug-29-07  sanyas: I think the double rook ending was winnable. Black just had to play ...h4 at some point.
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  FSR: Poor Miles - a terrible oversight on move 42. After 42.Raa7 the players can shake hands.
Nov-17-12  Abdel Irada: The tragedy from Miles' point of view is that at first glance 42. Rd7 looks more than plausible: It appears to win a pawn by force.

Miles must have been congratulating himself on his clever tactics just as Hort reached out to play 42. ...Rg8. After that move, I can imagine how demoralizing it was to realize that he was actually *losing* material by force.

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  kevin86: White will lose at least a piece...and his king is in a hotbox.
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  scormus: 42 ... Rg8!
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Nov-17-12  waustad: Considering their record, Miles may have had an extra bit of nerves against Hort. Classical games: Vlastimil Hort beat Anthony Miles 11 to 3, with 25 draws. Earlier in the game I was thinking that doubled rooks on the 7th had to be worth a pawn.
Nov-18-12  Blunderdome: YES MY PUN
Nov-19-12  Abdel Irada: <Blunderdome: YES MY PUN>

And you actually admit this?

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