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| Sep-21-05 | | YouRang: Well, given that we are all sensitized to queen sacs this week, this was easy to find. (Not to take anything away from Anderssen - great combination.) |
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| Sep-21-05 | | Halldor: Similar mate pattern as yesterday, therefor I found the solution. Nice when the puzzles have such a forced winning line. |
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| Sep-21-05 | | YouRang: What do you think of 14. O-O-O? Looks like castling into the attack to me. Perhaps 14. Bc3 is better. |
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| Sep-21-05 | | Saruman: I solved this in 7 seconds including 19.-Be3+. |
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| Sep-21-05 | | snowie1: No, 17.Qa5 don't fail <zabbura2002>, as ..Kb2 18.Rxb3+..axb3 19.Rb8 and the lady will now visit a4 or, 18...Kxb3 19.Rb8+ and same result. It's too late from this position_for white to recover without black making some blunder. (oversight for masters) |
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| Sep-21-05 | | YouRang: <YouRang> <Perhaps 14. Bc3 is better.> You idiot! 14. Bc3 loses the knight to 14...Bxg1. Black is already screwed before move 14! |
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| Sep-21-05 | | kevin86: White's decision to long castle was a dubious one-with black's queen and bishop focusing on his b-pawn. The sac is obvious;the rook mate on b1 is inescapable. The final check can be answered by four interpositions and a capture,but mate follows on b1. |
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| Sep-21-05 | | Simplification: <jahhaj> and <artemis> Thanks. I missed that the knight was pinned. |
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| Sep-21-05 | | EmperorAtahualpa: Oops, I made some spelling mistakes, this is what my kibitz was supposed to look like: "17...Qxb3 was indead an easy one to find, but I'm not sure if all of us thought of the brilliant move 19...Be3+!
I didn't see that move, because I overlooked Black's rook neatly positioned on d8! By the way, I had a look at this game with Crafty, and White could have saved this game with 17.g4!" |
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| Sep-21-05 | | TheSlid: <Saruman> I know - "sweet as a nut" - a lovely finish! |
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| Sep-21-05 | | Koster: Games like this give 0-0-0 a bad reputation. |
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| Sep-21-05 | | Iron Dragon: One problem I always have with puzzles is that I am wrong with what the other side will do. I can't foresee my own moves if I screw up what the other guy does. What the heck is the point of 19.Be1??? |
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| Sep-22-05 | | psmith: <Iron Dragon> 19. Be1 prevents immediate mate (19... Rb1) by providing a flight square (d2) for the White Queen. 19... Be3+! takes away that square (R on d8) leading to mate. |
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| Sep-22-05 | | psmith: <Emperor Atahualpa> Above, it was suggested by <the beginner> that
17 g4 Qa5
18 Kb2 Bc5
19 gxf5 Rxb3
would be good for Black. some analysis with chesslab.com's engine seems to confirm this:
20 Ka1 Rdb8
21 Be1 Qb6
with winning attack (according to the comp.)
This line seems very complicated though. What does Crafty say to these moves? |
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| Sep-22-05 | | psmith: A bit more to my last -- according still to the comp, white's attack is winning after 22. axb3 Qxb3; the main line is actually given as 22. Qe4 Rb2 23. Qb4 Rxb4 24. cxb4 Bxg1 winning. |
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| Sep-22-05 | | The beginner: <psmith>
I think you meant black is winning ?
22 axb3 ..Qxb3
The threat is ..Qa4+ Qa2 ..Qxd1+ Qb1 Qxb1 mate.
White can try some desperate things like
23 Rd8+ ..Rxd8
Again black will win after Qa3+ Rb8+ Qa2+ Rd8+ forcing the king out in the open. where it will be mated. |
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| Sep-22-05 | | psmith: <The beginner> "I think you meant black is winning?" Of course -- it was late when I typed that! |
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| Nov-05-07 | | nimh: Rybka 2.4 mp, AMD X2 2.01GHz, 10 min per move, threshold 0.33. Rosanes 4 mistakes:
10.d3 -1.77 (10.Nxf6+ -0.63)
14.0-0-0 -2.52 (14.Nf3 -0.84)
15.c3 -6.22 (15.Bc3 -2.52)
17.Nf3 #5 (17.g4 -3.04)
Anderssen 2 mistakes:
11...Nxe4 -0.76 (11...Bf5 -1.77)
16...Red8 -3.04 (16...Qa5 -6.10) |
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| Jul-13-09 | | Bitme: yes nimh I'd play this amazing 16.Qa5 that makes the force winning which would go like this 17.Kb2-Bc5 18.b4-Rxb4! 19.cxb4-Bd4+ 20.Kb3-Be6+ 21.Kc2-Qxa2 and then black forces mate within few moves.
amazing play from Anderssen could foresee that and make all of us enjoy his games till now |
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| Oct-03-09 | | kasparvez: Guns and Rosanes |
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| Sep-10-10 | | sevenseaman: Bizarrely entertaining! These muscular convulsions are also a part of chess. |
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| Nov-20-14 | | yureesystem: Anderssen is the man, a master of attack. |
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| Nov-03-16 | | Petrosianic: <nimh>: <Anderssen 2 mistakes:
16...Red8 -3.04 (16...Qa5 -6.10)>
Wrong. A move that leads to a sure and certain win cannot be considered a mistake. Blind reliance on engine evals is itself a mistake. |
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Nov-03-16
 | | perfidious: <Petrosianic....Blind reliance on engine evals is itself a mistake.> Same for blindly trusting in others' annotations or comments on games. My own included. |
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| Jan-12-19 | | sea7kenp: I need to correct a Game Link, left Sept 7, 2003 by <AussiePatzer>: Keres vs Botvinnik, 1941 This link works. (The original may have been a Duplicate). |
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sac: 17...Qxb3