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May-11-05
 | | TheAlchemist: I don't want this to sound the wrong way, but I would really like someone to explain to me, what good comes of these Nc4 moves by Black in the English attack? The light square bishop is usually a problem piece for White (or at least it seems so), so Black just helps White get rid of it, while connecting rooks at the same time. Am I missing something? Thanks. |
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| Jul-24-05 | | Giearth: I think the problem is Ribli allowed the move 15.g5. You should check the game between Chocenka,D-Zagorskis,D 2005(not yet in database). Zagorskis chose 13... h6 instead of 13... Nc4 above. I found this in www.chesslab.com |
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| Jun-21-06 | | Xuorarch: I think one might argue that playing Nc4 is good because it trades a pair of minor pieces, and White loses the bishop pair. I do agree that Nc4 is bad, though. About 13...h6, this seems to sort of open up Black's kingside. For instance, 13...h6 14.g5 hxg5 15.h6 gxh6 16.gxh6 Rxh6 exposes Black's king. Of course the players have many more options than this, but any pawn moves in front of the king's casted postion risk exposing him to attack, and the pawn can become a target for sacrifices and such. |
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| Mar-31-12 | | Manofglory: How about 17...f5? |
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| Mar-31-12 | | chesscoach1: chesscoach1: 17... f5 is refuted by 18. h6 and the king will be exposed. 16.. f5 would be better than 16..Qc7
A high quality analysis of this game can be found in www.chess-university.blogspot.com
Also Kasparov has analysed this game in the "Revolution in the 70s" book. |
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| Jan-28-13 | | shakman: 13. ... Nfd7 was played V Iordachescu vs V Neverov, 2005 |
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| Sep-04-14 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: Why did White play his bishop to h6 instead of the h-pawn? |
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| Sep-04-14 | | MarkFinan: <Cheapo by the Dozen: Why did White play his bishop to h6 instead of the h-pawn> To open up the g file basically. Black can't recapture the Bishop with the g pawn. ✌ |
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| Sep-04-14 | | MarkFinan: Btw.. Blacks in limbo from this position .If black takes the pawn then there's a forced mate but if he plays kf8 then white promotes the h pawn. 
click for larger view |
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| Sep-04-14 | | kevin86: White is aiming for a mate threat by Rh8! . This will win. |
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Sep-04-14
 | | perfidious: The circumstances surrounding this game are worthy of mention. On the eve of the game, Adorjan was down two points in Game Collection: Budapest Interzonal Playoff 1979, though having draw odds overall. Needing victory, he won the next game as well and secured a draw in the final game for a place in the Candidates, after finishing equal third with his compatriot at Riga Interzonal (1979). |
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| Sep-04-14 | | Howard: Geez ! I was just about to post the same thing.
The "draw odds", by the way, was determined by their respective results in the 1979 interzonal although I don't know exactly what method was used. Bottom line: in the event of a 3-3 tie, Adorjan would get the third spot in the Candidates. |
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Sep-04-14
| | perfidious: <Howard> S-B, as noted in the link to Riga. |
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| Sep-04-14 | | vsiva1: Actually for black if u see only one Dark Bishop is there for King's defense and all other forces are inactive, whereas for white two Rooks with few Pawns force Mate. |
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Sep-04-14
 | | FSR: Black was <not> OK! |
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Sep-04-14
| | perfidious: <FSR> Then again, Adorjan <was> playing White. |
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| Sep-04-14 | | MarkFinan: <FSR: Black was <not> OK> Lol. Nice little game though. This is another opening I seem to struggle with because of castling queenside and the pressure down the c file In fact there's not many I'm okay with, lol. Saying that, I do only play an engine nowadays so maybe I'm not as bad as I think. |
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| Sep-04-14 | | catlover: Ribli must have missed the weather forecast. |
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| Apr-15-17 | | clement41: Similar to M Vachier-Lagrave vs A David, 2004 |
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| Jan-17-25 | | Mayankk: Barking up the wrong tree ...
I spent too much time trying to make 18 gxh7+ or 18 h6 work. Which meant that I didn't have energy left to analyse 18 Bh6 and I dismissed it without much thought. It's an elegant move. Somewhat counterintuitive but nevertheless. |
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| Jan-17-25 | | mel gibson: Didn't get this one today.
Stockfish 17 says:
18. Bh6
(18. Bh6 (1.Bh6 Rxc3 2.bxc3 Qxc3 3.Qxc3 Rxc3 4.gxf7+ Kxf7 5.Rxg7+ Ke8 6.Rxh7 Rxf3 7.Rh8+ Kf7
8.Rg1 Bf6 9.Rh7+ Ke8 10.Bg5 Bg8 11.Nd2 Rh3 12.Rh6 Bxg5 13.Rxg5 Bf7 14.Rg7
Rxh5 ) +3.78/45 205)
score for White +3.78 depth 45. |
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Jan-17-25
 | | Open Defence: In trying to find a defence for Black I looked at 17...Bf6 and if 18.gxh7+ Kxh7 19.Rg3
click for larger view Now if 19...Rxc3 20.bxc3 21.Rhg1 Qxc3 22.Qxc3 Rxc3 23.Bd2 Rc8 24.Bg5 
click for larger view When I think White is winning albeit not by tactical force Black could offer more stubborn resistance with 19...Rg8 perhaps, looking deeper into that |
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Jan-17-25
 | | scormus: <Mayankk: Barking ...>
Certainly not intuitive. I thought 18 gxf7+ would do the job. It gives check, preempts 18 ... Rxc3, opens the g-file, and prepares for Bh6. What can be wrong with it? According to SF it works if B makes the natural reply ... Bxf7. Then the advantage to W is comprarbale with te text. Surprisingly, B gets away with only ca. 1.0 disadvantage after 18 ... Kxf7! I didn't consider that defence. |
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| Jan-17-25 | | Mayankk: Hi <scormus> , Yes. Thankfully I spotted 18 gxf7+ Kxf7 line quickly and that it didn't lead anywhere. So some time got saved there. I was however distracted by the romantic Rook sac idea of 18 gxh7+ Kxh7 19 Rxg7+ Kxg7 20 Bh6+ Three consecutive checks, King's pawn cover demolished, Queen waiting to attack on the open g file etc. Should have worked, but it doesn't unfortunately. |
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Jan-17-25
 | | chrisowen: I rent way c z hod quick july v Bh6 hack aah hark aod jade I c guff ace me cuff Bh6 flap; |
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sac: 20.Bxg7