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Charles French Smith vs Henry Buckle
Ries' Divan Tournament (1849), London ENG, rd 1
Sicilian Defense: Kramnik Variation (B40)  ·  0-1

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Nov-24-04  Knight13: White attacked well but he had some calculation problems. That's why he lost 2 pieces in the ending.
Nov-24-04
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  InspiredByMorphy: <Knight13> I agree. Perhaps 20.Qh3 Rh8 21.Qh6+ Kf7 22.Rh3 would have been better.
Nov-24-04  Knight13: <InspiredByMorphy> Maybe. But better is 20. Qh3 Rh8 21. Qh6+ Kf7 22. Bxg7+!. I think Smith thought 21. Qf7+ Kh6 22. Qxe8, winning a pawn.
Nov-24-04
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  InspiredByMorphy: <Knight13> It appears that 20.Qh3 Rh8 21.Qh6+ Kf7 22.Bxg7+ wins a pawn but it actually loses a piece. 22. ...hxg7 and the rook is guarded twice by the queen and bishop. Therefore 22.Rh3 seems to continue the attack. To what ends Im not sure however...
Nov-24-04
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  Chessical: <Knight13 & InspiredByMorphy> 20.Qh3 <Bxb2!> ssems to win on the spot.
Nov-24-04  Knight13: <Chessical> I don't get it. 21. Qh6+ Kf7 22. Qxh7+ Qg7 23. Qxg7+ Kxg7 24. Rf2 and is black winning a better spot? 21. Qxh7+ Kf8 22. Bxg6 and Black is in trouble.
Nov-24-04
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  InspiredByMorphy: <Chessical> You have great insight. Im sure it is me who is missing something here but doesent 20.Qh3 Bxb2 21.Qxh7+ look bad for black? Or can the king safely escape?
Nov-24-04
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  Chessical: <InspiredByMorphy> As I see it, Smith's problem is that the black Q controls the vital black squares -especially <g7> and <h7>.

So after:

<20.Qh3> Bxb2 21.Qxh7+ Kf8 22.Qxg6 Bxa1 23.Rh7 his attack has run out of steam.

Nov-24-04  sandyobrien: I'll have to take side with <IBM> on this one, 20.Qh3 Bxb2 21.Qxh7+ does look bad for black.
Nov-24-04
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  Chessical: It may <look> bad for Black, but I believe that it <is> bad for white. Can anyone demonstrate a winning line for White after:

<20.Qh3> Bxb2 21.Qxh7+ Kf8?

Nov-24-04  sandyobrien: <chessical>i would, but i'm at school right now and i don't have the mental power to analyze that line blindfold.

(note to self: start carrying pocket set around again or buy pocket fritz)

Nov-24-04  sandyobrien: hm..

what if 20. Qh3 was forgotten altogether and 20. Nc3 was played? ... it prevents that Bxb2 but apparently drops a pawn.

Nov-24-04
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  Chessical: <sandyobrien> Your idea of <20. Nc3> seems significantly more sound than the desperate move played. Unfortunately, after black plays Rh8, White is still a pawn down for vacuous compensation.
Nov-25-04  Knight13: <Chessical: <20.Qh3> Bxb2 21.Qxh7+ Kf8?> I've suggested 22. Bxg7! and Black has no excape squares.

Or is my suggestion wrong?

Nov-25-04  sandyobrien: <knight13> i suppose you mean 22. Bxg6, black has 22. ... Re7 and white's in a hopeless position.
Nov-26-04  Knight13: 22... Re7 23. Qh8+ Qxh8 24. Rh8+ Kg7 25. Rh7+ <Kxg6? Rxe7> Kf8 24. Rh8+ Kf7 25. Rh8+ Kf7 and it's a threefold draw. Not a hopeless position, I say.
Nov-26-04
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  Chessical: <Knight13> You have overlooked that after:

<20.Qh3> Bxb2 21.Qxh7+ Kf8 22.Bxg6 Re7 <23.Qh8+??> Qxh8 24.Rxh8+, that Black can play <24...Bxh8>, and that's that.

Nov-27-04  Knight13: <Chessical> What!? I thought black played 20... Bxf2.

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