Vladimir Kramnik vs Alexey Shirov (2008)

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Vladimir Kramnik vs Alexey Shirov
Tal Memorial (2008), Moscow RUS, rd 1, Aug-18
Semi-Slav Defense: Meran. Wade Variation (D47) · 1-0

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Aug-18-08		notyetagm: Position after 46 ♖e6xb6 1-0 click for larger view Now that is what I call <CENTRALIZATION>: an incredibly oppressive <BISHOP PAIR>.

Aug-18-08		messachess: an exciting try by Shirov--apparently, a GM gamble.

Aug-18-08		Dionyseus: Shirov's big error was 19...Ra5. Rybka 3 thinks 19... g6 20. Qf3 Qc7 21. Qg2 f5 is best with a score of +0.22 good chance for black to draw.

Aug-18-08		notyetagm: <Dionyseus: Shirov's big error was 19...Ra5. Rybka 3 thinks 19... g6 20. Qf3 Qc7 21. Qg2 f5 is best with a score of +0.22 good chance for black to draw.> click for larger view When you say "+0.22" with Rybka 3, do you mean a slight plus for White or Black? Thanks

Aug-18-08		Dionyseus: <notyetagm> A Rykbka 3 score of +0.22 means R3 thinks white has a 60% chance to win according to the eval table found here: http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybka...

Aug-18-08		notyetagm: <Dionyseus: <notyetagm> A Rykbka 3 score of +0.22 means R3 thinks white has a 60% chance to win according to the eval table found here: http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybka...; Thanks

Aug-18-08		Marmot PFL: According to the table 60% is the expected score, not the chance to win.

Aug-18-08		notyetagm: <Marmot PFL: According to the table 60% is the expected score, not the chance to win.> Thanks for pointing that out. Does that means that Rybka 3 expects to score 600 points from 1000 games in which it gets a +0.22 advantage?

Aug-18-08		Jim Bartle: Shirov seems to want to think it's still 1994...

Aug-18-08		Atking: Almost a perfect game from Kramnik. Hoping he will keep playing like that.

Aug-19-08		Kaspablanca: well, let`s wait to see what Kramnik will play with black, let`s hope he avoid for once and all the petrov.

Aug-19-08		arsen387: Kramnik's R on the 6th rank is the killer. Don't give Kramnik even the slightest chance to win, coz he will take it. Stupenduous technique by Vlad. This is the kind of chess I admire

Aug-19-08		Dionyseus: <Marmot PFL> <According to the table 60% is the expected score, not the chance to win.> What's the difference?

Aug-19-08		Marmot PFL: <Dionyseus> The expected score is the winning chance plus .5 of the drawing chance.

Aug-19-08		Hesam7: <Dionyseus: Shirov's big error was 19...Ra5. Rybka 3 thinks 19... g6 20. Qf3 Qc7 21. Qg2 f5 is best with a score of +0.22 good chance for black to draw.> After the game Kramnik said that 19...g6 was the only move and he was planning to continue with 20.Qh2 Qxh2 21.Kxh2 with some advantage in the endgame.

Aug-20-08		capatal: 19...Ra5 Shirov prefers to return some material to avoid a very passive endgame, but White's advantage is probably even greater here. [19...g6 20.Qh2 Qxh2+ 21.Kxh2 f5 22.Bf3 axb2 23.Rxa8+ Bxa8 24.Bxb2 seems to me better for White, Black's four pawns notwithstanding. White's control over the dark squares is his biggest asset here, especially if/when his king makes it to f4 or e5.] - <Analysis by Master Monokroussos>

Aug-20-08		Madman99X: Trading the dark colored bishop for the three kingside pawns doesn't seem a good strategy against a positional defender of the Kramnik's caliber.

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