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May-13-08 | | notyetagm: <CONT'D>
Of course a genius like Ivanchuk is not going to fall for such chepos: he simply played 44 ♔g7-f8!, avoiding Aronian's <STALEMATE TRAPS>, upon which Aronian resigned. Position after 44 ... ♔g7-f8! 0-1
 click for larger viewAgainst a supreme tactician like Aronian, there is always danger! Aronian was -this- close to drawing this completely lost position, due to his tactical ability devising a <STALEMATE> trap which nearly worked. |
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May-13-08 | | ahmadov: <JointheArmy: Nice stalemate attempt at the end there. I thought the transmission messed up when he played Qg7+.> Yes, but you cannot confuse elite players with such tricks... |
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May-13-08 | | notyetagm: <ahmadov: <JointheArmy: Nice stalemate attempt at the end there. I thought the transmission messed up when he played Qg7+.> Yes, but you cannot confuse elite players with such tricks...> You'd be surprised what players miss in time trouble. Remember Ivanchuk missing that simple <ROOK FORK> against Aronian at Linares to lose a won position? |
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May-13-08 | | ahmadov: <notyetagm> Don't forget that this is Chucky's tournament, so no blunder this time :-) |
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May-13-08 | | ahmadov: <notyetagm> In a more serious note, I agree with you. I even have a game collection of GM blunders. However, when a player sacrifices a Queen, you immediately suspect that he/she has some tricks behind that, which helps you not to get into the trap. Don't you think so? |
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May-13-08 | | notyetagm: <ahmadov: ... However, when a player sacrifices a Queen, you immediately suspect that he/she has some tricks behind that, which helps you not to get into the trap. Don't you think so?> Oh, I agree. When Chucky saw 43 ♕f6-g7+!, he must have seen in big neon letters the words <STALEMATE> <TRAP> flashing in his mind. |
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May-13-08 | | ahmadov: <notyetagm> It would be more beautiful if stalemate was forced after the Queen sacrifice, I am delighted to see Chucky's winning streak in the tournament though... |
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May-13-08 | | shintaro go: Aronian's "stalemate trap" is a cheap and desperate attempt and a mockery of Ivanchuk's intelligence. Just offer the handshake rather than result to ridiculous "stalemate traps." |
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May-13-08 | | ahmadov: <shintaro go: Aronian's "stalemate trap" is a cheap and desperate attempt and a mockery of Ivanchuk's intelligence. Just offer the handshake rather than result to ridiculous "stalemate traps."> But people say Chucky was under time pressure (I was not following the game live), which gives some good excuse for Aronian's unusual sacrifice... |
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May-13-08 | | gus inn: My belief is that Aronian played the "stalemate" idea as a joke and perhaps also as an honur/gesture to his great opponent.Within no doubt that Ivanchuk has seen this possibility in time.It is (was) the only shot that Aronian had. |
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May-13-08 | | percyblakeney: <My belief is that Aronian played the "stalemate" idea as a joke> One can see on the video from the game that he is smiling when he plays it. |
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May-13-08 | | minasina: Rybka analysis, some critical points and variations http://chessok.com/broadcast/live.p... |
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May-13-08 | | Aspirador: <But people say Chucky was under time pressure (I was not following the game live), which gives some good excuse for Aronian's unusual sacrifice...> He was no longer in time trouble at this point. |
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May-14-08 | | DiscerningKing: 19.Bc3?!... to Expose Black's King should have been followed by 23.Rc7!?, then maybe double his White Rooks on the c file? |
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May-14-08 | | DiscerningKing: Nah.. its a lost purpose. |
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May-15-08 | | patzer2: Surely the ill fated pawn gambit 15. d5? has to be the start of Aronian's troubles in this game. After 15. Bg2 =, White is no worse than Black. The desperate 19. Bc3!? sacrifice was interesting, but was unsound and failed to create the complications White hoped for during Ivanchuk's illusory time trouble. |
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Jun-16-08 | | minasina: Rybka analyses relocated (see my previous post): http://chessok.com/broadcast/live.p... INTERNET CHESS CLUB / Chess.FM, FREE "GAME OF THE DAY":
http://webcast.chessclub.com/Mtel08... commentary by GM Ronen Har-Zvi |
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Oct-02-08 | | braimondi: I always laugh when I saw this tentative of aronian get stale mated ^^ |
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Oct-02-08 | | Ladolcevita: i dont think its laughable
you do worse |
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Nov-20-08 | | hedgeh0g: Very cheeky by Aronian!
I wish I could see both players' faces when Qg7+! was played. |
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Mar-03-09 | | Riverbeast: After Qg7+ Aronian tried to sneak his 'g' pawn off the board..But Ivanchuk caught him.... :-) |
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Mar-04-09 | | TheaN: Hm. Lets be honest here: if Aronian is playing for 43.Qg7† Kxg7 44.f6†, he might as well end the game with 44....Kf8 45.g5 Re3‡ 0-1. That would be the fairest to Ivanchuk. |
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Mar-10-09 | | Pawnage: Clever of Aronian, I'd definitely give up the draw if I had black in blitz play. "Ha, this noob just gave me a queen and a pawn and he still has a move. ...check? OMGZ NO!!!!" |
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Apr-10-09 | | Eduardo Leon: I loved the annotations in ChessBase: 0-0 is for sissies. Ukrainian men castle manually. |
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Apr-18-24
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43. Qc3 gxf5 44. gxf5 Re3+ 45. Qxe3 Bxe3 46. Kh4 Kg7 47. Kh5 Kf6 48. h4 Bf2 49. Kh6 Rh1 50. h5 Be3+ 51. Kh7 Rxh5+ 52. Kg8 Rh6 53. Kf8 Rh8# |
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