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Jul-10-02 | | mprchess: 12. Nc7+ should have been seen by th voters. |
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Jul-10-02
 | | Sneaky: I think "the World" saw Nc7+ coming, they just thought that it would provide compensation for the exchange. Interesting to note, this game was copied all the way up to move 15 in R Leitao vs Kiril Georgiev, 2001 |
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Dec-16-02 | | AgentRgent: We did see 12. Nc7+ when we played 10...Qe6. It was a deliberate attempt to demolish white's Maroczy Bind. I was involved in the analysis done online with Irina Krush, though I was a rather weak player at the time. |
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Dec-16-02 | | AgentRgent: http://www.uschess.org/cc/alex_0001... |
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Dec-16-02
 | | Sneaky: <51. ... b5 This is where the controversy occurred. One hacker bragged that he loaded the votes in favor of 51. ... b5. Irina Krush, whose suggestions were almost always followed by the players, was late in posting her suggestion of 51. ... Ka1!> Hackers!! From the Kasparov team, no doubt! |
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Dec-16-02 | | AgentRgent: 51...Ka1 was a Draw. We had extensive analysis that proved the draw. It's a shame that such a truely beautiful game was destroyed because Microsoft couldn't control their security holes (What a surprise!). Interestingly enough, on move 52 one of our team members hacked the voting and voted (many many times) for a move that would simply have given away our queen. Initially when the results were posted it was shown as the move with the most votes, but then the results were changed about an hour later. The same thing occured later in the game when we all voted (legitimately) to give away our queen in protest, the organizers simply ignored our votes. |
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Dec-16-02 | | Kulla Tierchen: In the aftermath Microsoft treated the young woman with all the class one would expect from such a company. I suspect they are also sabotaging Sylvester. |
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Dec-16-02 | | Sabatini: How are they hurting Sylvester? |
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Dec-16-02 | | Kulla Tierchen: He is probably not seeing the books because he is accessing via Netscape rather than Internet Explorer. |
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Dec-17-02 | | AgentRgent: I'm using Mozilla (which Netscape is based on) and I see them fine. |
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Mar-17-03
 | | Honza Cervenka: Is not the resignation of "World" little bit premature? I did not analyse final position too deeply, but after 62...Qc6+ I don't see clear win for white, for example 63.Kg5 Qd5+ 64.Qf5 Qd8+ 65.Kg6 Qd6+ 66.Qf6 Qb8 67.Kh7 Qc7 68.Qxd4 Kb1! and this ending is probably drawish according to books although the defence is very difficult. Of course, white can try other continuation and all the time black is balancing on the edge, but I did not find anything convincing for white. What am I missing? |
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Mar-17-03 | | AgentRgent: <Honza> Most of the team that had been doing the analysis for the "World Team" had given up because of the Voting fraud. There was simply no point in continuing since we'd already proven a draw (after 51...Ka1 and Microsoft had already proven it's inability to prevent vote stuffing. |
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Mar-17-03
 | | Honza Cervenka: Yes, I understand that problem you've mentioned above. But the final position doesn't seem to be lost yet. |
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Mar-17-03
 | | Honza Cervenka: According to above mentioned site "Kasparov later produced detailed analysis that demonstrated a mate in 25 from this position." Hmmm... Is that Kasparov's analysis available on the Internet? I'm very curious about it. |
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Mar-17-03 | | Cerebrate2006: just a random thought, but since it is "the world" that was playing here, wouldn't that mean that Gary could have played in part against himself? I think he rigged the game. |
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Nov-08-03 | | mprchess: What!?? |
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Nov-08-03 | | Benjamin Lau: Kasparov would have gotten only one vote like every other player, even if had chosen to play against himself. |
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Nov-08-03 | | talmax: <Kulla Tierchen: In the aftermath Microsoft treated the young woman with all the class one would expect from such a company.> Hmm, Microsoft. Say no more. |
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Nov-09-03 | | crafty: 62...♕c6+ 63. ♔g5 ♕d5+ 64. ♕f5 ♕g2+ 65. ♕g4 ♕d5+ 66. ♔h4 (eval 7.39; depth 16 ply; 2000M nodes) |
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Feb-07-04 | | Dick Brain: The move 10..Qe6! was a theoretical novelty in this game that leaves Black with the advantage. There is no way that Kasparov should have had any chance of winning the endgame. The world team included Khalifman as an advisor but unfortunately the voters occasioally went berserk. Supposedly, the losing move for Black was 58..Qe4? Khalifman had already published analysis showing that this moved lost a week before. This endgame cannot be played accurately by man, Fritz, nor Crafty. For this sort of position in this sort of match you need special software that can do a bottom up type search like that which can create the tablebases. I'm sure both Kasparov and Khalifman each have such for their respective grandmaster schools (how else could Kasparov announce mate in 25?). In any case, Kasparov said that he would have won even with the best possible move on #58. The analysis can be found on: http://classic.zone.msn.com/kasparo... |
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Apr-16-04 | | iron maiden: Kasparov has conquered the World. It had to happen eventually. |
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Jun-03-04 | | trogdor: What should white do against 5...Qg4, It threatens to win 2 pawns at the same time and white has to give up a pawn. |
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Jun-12-04 | | MoonlitKnight: White would castle, and on 6...Qxe4, he plays d3 or d4 with ample compensation for the pawn. As you see, none of the World's pieces are developed, and the queen will be dancing all over the board. "The world is not enough" |
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Sep-01-04 | | Knight13: All right. Kasparov queen first. Good game! |
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Sep-10-04 | | pawn52: <Knight13> You need to back to the game and look through it THROUGHLY!! The World queened first, not Kasparov!! |
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