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Milan Vidmar vs Siegbert Tarrasch
15th DSB Congress, Nuremberg (1906), Nuremberg GER, rd 4, Jul-26
Tarrasch Defense: Symmetrical Variation (D32)  ·  1-0

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Nov-20-04  ForeverYoung: What a trashing of Tarrasch! Hoffer points out that Tarrasch erred with 10 ... Qb6 to which White has Nb5 if black plays Qxb2. He recommends 10 ... Nd5 "with an even game" if 11 Bxd5. " ... a vigorous kingside attack with 18 g4 which boldly conceived, was splendidly carried out."
Mar-27-05
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  Benzol: This game popped up in Fred Reinfeld's "Chess Masters On Winning Chess" with the source of original annotation coming from "Deutsche Schachzeitung" in 1959.

Whites' position is devastating but 38...fxe4 39.♕g4 is not mate as stated.

Jul-12-05
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  Honza Cervenka: In this beautiful game young Milan Vidmar (21) beat in great attacking style his chess tutor (as he himself called Dr. Tarrasch) and chess "god" of Germany. Vidmar wrote very interesting annotations of the game, which were published for example in Boris Isaakovich Turov's book "Zhemchuzhiny shakhmatnogo tvorchestva" (Pearls of Chess Creation). To the move 18 Vidmar wrote: <The threat is evident: h4 and g5. When I, drunk of the victory, showed the game next day to master Teichmann in one Nuremberg cafĂ©, my 18th move roused immediate reaction: "WHAT?!", roared Teichmann. "Have you ventured to play such a presumptuous move against great Tarrasch?!" Teichmann could not calm down. Only after long time his murmuring died away. In that moment I have looked deeply into the structure of German chess hierarchy. Tarrasch's authority was unswerving.>

Siegbert Tarrasch wrote about the game in the tournament bulletin: "Very nice game in the Queen's Gambit was played by Vidmar against Tarrasch; exceptionally flash finish makes this game one of most beautiful at the tournament."

Jul-12-05  fgh: Nice game by Menchik. It's hard to find a mistake by Tarrasch here.
Jul-12-05  fgh: It seems that black's main mistake was to get his queen locked on the queenside, after that white's attack is much easier to execute.
Jul-12-05  maoam: <Nice game by Menchik. It's hard to find a mistake by Tarrasch here.>

It's hard to fault Menchik's play here, especially since she seems to have let Vidmar do all the work.

Jul-12-05  fgh: Oh, how stupid me :P This game was played by Vidmar and not by Menchik, lol.
Jul-12-05  fgh: And to think they measured my IQ over 130 points...
Jul-12-05  Koster: 9...dc4, giving up the center and letting white's KB enter the game with tempo seems a very unTarrasch like move. He usually liked to have the IQP rather than play against it. Instead after b6 and Bb7 black has little to fear.

It takes courage to play moves like g4, but it was justified by black's passive position and poor development. In fact white has to attack before black trades down, gets developed and goes to work on white's weaknesses.

Jul-12-05  maoam: <And to think they measured my IQ over 130 points...>

Time makes fools of us all.

Jul-12-05
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  Honza Cervenka: If 38...dxe4, then 39.d5+ Kxd5 40.Qd1+ Ke6 (40...Kc4 41.Ne5#) 41.Qb3#.
Apr-14-07  Ulhumbrus: It may be that 18 g4 is intended partly to take advantage of the fact that 17...Nce7 has blocked the square e7 as a flight square for withdrawing the B on f6 to. Instead of 18...Kf8, 18...Nxe3 clears d5 for the other N, but then 19 Nxf6+ weakens Black's King side. Black's Nd5 is tied to the defence of the KB, the other N is tied to the defence of the Nd5, and the g7 pawn is tied to the defence of the h6 pawn. All this suggests that Tarrasch's plan of attack against White's isolated d pawn is mistaken. The move 12...Qa7 places the Q miserably and so invites suspicion. The move 16...Bf6, invites the attack Ne4 and g4-g5.
Dec-24-09  whiteshark: Vidmar, in his chess memories, called this win the <best game> of his long chess career.
Mar-03-12
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  Chessical: Vidmar quoted in Adrian Mihalchishin's article on Vidmar "The Slovenian Leonardo" - (http://www.chesspro.ru/_events/2011..., in Russian)

"The game took-place in the large exhibition hall of Tarrasch's home town in the presence of a huge audience of fans. The first row of the audience sat down on their chairs, the second row stood, and the third and fourth rows climbed onto their chairs!


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Here, the doctor said, "You're happy with a draw, Herr Vidmar?". I laughed and played:

<38.Rxe4 +!!> Tarrasch's blood rushed to his head, he blushed. <38 ... dxe4> ( 38 ... fxe4 39.Qg4 + ) 39.d5 + Kxd5 40.Qd1 + Ke6 41.Qb3 #

Tarrasch was so angry that before my next game with Chigorin he came up to our table, patted his friend Chigorin on the shoulder and said, "Today you will avenge me!" (RR: Chigorin vs Vidmar, 1906 - Vidmar won)

In the tournament book, Tarrasch entitled it : "Vidmar's Beautiful Game" . But because of this loss, he did not forgive me for the rest of his life. Repeatedly, he wrote that my style was deficient, and he often made unobjective comments. He seemed to have regretted that had helped me to play in several German tournaments. But he was my teacher and my great respect for him remained despite his attitude towards me. "

Mar-03-12
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  Pawn and Two: <Chessical> Thanks, for the great addition to the history of this game.

Take another look at the Chigorin vs Vidmar, 1906 game from this same tournament.

Tarrasch's wish was granted! Chigorin won the game, not Vidmar! I will send in another correction request.

Mar-03-12
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  Penguincw: Ouch. Tarrasch loses in his opening.
Jun-22-16  brainzugzwang: <Benzol: This game popped up in Fred Reinfeld's "Chess Masters On Winning Chess" with the source of original annotation coming from "Deutsche Schachzeitung" in 1959. Whites' position is devastating but 38...fxe4 39.♕g4 is not mate as stated.>

I still have my copy of the book and remember this game. Also remembered not seeing why 38...fxe4 39.Qg4 is mate as written -- surprised Reinfeld didn't correct that -- but that happens soon after 39...Kf7 40.Qxd7+ followed by Qxg7+.

Jan-13-21
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  Jonathan Sarfati: <Honza Cervenka:> Vidmar definitely said what you quoted, but it's hard to understand. Teichmann held his own reasonably well against Tarrasch in their personal encounters. OK, a minus score of +5-8=2 but hardly a pushover. And by the time of this game, Teichmann had a slight plus score of +4-3=1.

One also wonders why Tarrasch considered Chigorin a friend, given that Chigorin had won many games from him while Vidmar won only one. I suppose that Tarrasch regarded Chigorin as a proven peer with a level score, and respected him as the leading proponent of the "old" style.

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