Dec-02-04 | | Knight13: 6.9%! What a loser! |
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May-18-05 | | fenno: It is interesting that Chessmetrics site claims that Schulten "had" second best rating in the world in january 1851. Well below Kieseritzky, however, and just slightly above Harrwitz. |
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May-18-05 | | Poulsen: Chessbase gives him 3½ p. in 32 games. Among the games there's a win in 18 moves against Morphy. Sonas ratingcalculations on chessmetrics.com are highly debateble. The calculations might be believeble from a purely statistical viewpoint, but the foundation for the calculations are very weak, since we in fact know very few results prior to London 1851. So there is very little facts - if any - to substansuate a claim, that Schulten would have been the second best rated in the world by januar 1851. It's worth noticing, that most of his preserved games were played against famed players of the time. No wonder, that he lost! His over-all score must have been a lot better - why should Morphy bother to play him, if it weren't? |
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May-18-05 | | Runemaster: The schulten of swing. |
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May-18-05 | | Marvol: Going through his games you got to admire his want to go forward.
In most of his games he makes only a few moves "backward", usually he throws his pieces at the opponent like... like... ...like boomerangs, since usually they come backfiring at him :-S |
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Jun-20-05 | | Montreal1666: Who is Schulten? |
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Jul-28-05 | | Knight13: <Knight13: 6.9%! What a loser!> Sorry! I didn't want to say it. I apologize. |
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Oct-05-07
 | | tpstar: Looks like this fellow enjoyed a fascinating career, playing the leading players of his day, albeit not particularly successfully. The database credits him with one win over Morphy J Schulten vs Morphy, 1857 (the kibitzing discusses his career) and one over Kieseritzky Kieseritzky vs J Schulten, 1853 (notice the long match between them where Schulten won 34 games and drew 10), plus two wins and a draw against Charles Henry Stanley - and then an incredible slew of losses, including brutal miniatures like J Schulten vs Kieseritzky, 1844 & Morphy vs J Schulten, 1857 He must have been exceedingly wealthy to play such top class opposition, although one can only wonder about his reputation back then among his peers. I suspect his games are chock full of basic tactics. And yes, it's too bad more of his wins didn't survive extant. |
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Jul-28-12
 | | FSR: His most famous game must be his crushing loss in J Schulten vs Morphy, 1857. |
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Aug-02-21
 | | MissScarlett: New York Times, December 29th 1875, p.4:
<Cable advices announce the sudden death of Mr. John W. Schulten, which occurred the 25th inst., in the City of Berlin, where he had lived for many years in charge of the business of Messrs. A. T. Stewart & Co. for all Germany. Mr. Schulten was some years ago a well-known merchant of this City, and will be well remembered for his kind and social qualities by those who enjoyed his personal acquaintance.> Gaige claims Schulten was born in Germany, but has no year of birth, so where does the 1821 at Wikipedia come from, I wonder. That he was already playing serious matches with Rousseau in 1841 and with Stanley in 1844/45 - when, in 1845, he's described as the president of the New York CC - suggest that he must be older. Did he come to America as a child? Or to set up in business? <Between 1846 and 1848, the construction and finishing details of one of Stewart's most famous buildings, the "Marble Palace" at 280 Broadway, were completed. This establishment, "the cradle of the department store",[8] sent A. T. Stewart & Company to the top of America's most successful retailers.> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexa.... |
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Aug-02-21
 | | MissScarlett: (New York) Evening Post, July 1st 1848, p.3:
<The subscribers hereby give notice that they have formed a limited Partnership pursuant to the laws of the state of New York concerning Limited Partnerships. The name or firm under which said partnership is to be conducted is J. W. SCHULTEN & HURD. The general nature of the business intended to be transacted by the said partnership is a general mercantile and commission buiness. The general partners interested in the said partnership are John W. Schulten and Chauncey D. Hurd, both residing in the city of New York. The special partner is Pierre Antoine Jules Blanc, residing at Faverges, in the duchy of Savoy, kingdom of Sardinia. The said special partner has contributed to the common stock of the said copartnership the sum of one hundred thousand dollars in actual cash. The said copartnership is to commence on the first day of July, in the year one thousand eight hundred and forty-eight, and to terminate on the first day of July, in the year one thousand eight hundred and fifty-four.[...]
Mr. J. W. Schulten ceases this day to be a partner in the house of Blanc, Duport & Co., Faverges in Savoy. The above copartnership will retain the general agency of Messrs. Blanc, Duport & Co., for the United States and will keep the depot of the silks of their manufactory at No. 34 Broad street.> |
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Aug-05-21
 | | MissScarlett: <Daniel Fiske> wrote: <Tonight Schulten is to encounter Morphy. He will be the strongest opponent the young hero has yet encountered and I am anxious to see the result. Schulten’s play is of the highest kind. I watched him last night as he played with Perrin and Stanley and I have never seen such games except when Morphy played.> https://www.chesshistory.com/winter... Morphy beat Schulten +23 -1. |
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Aug-06-21 | | Nosnibor: It looks like Schulten got schot down when facing Morphy. |
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Aug-06-21
 | | Tabanus: Berlin Deaths has him as Johann Wilhelm Schulten, born in Düsseldorf, married to Selma Böninger, died in Berlin 25 Dec 1875 at the age of 61 years and 9 months (= abt. 1814). Rheinland marriages: married 1851 to Selma Böninger. Germany, Select Births and Baptisms: at least three children (with names), no dates. US passport applications in 1848 and 1861
New York Naturalization record oath date 6 July 1848
Looks like he traveled around a bit, the famliy may have lived in Germany all the time (since 1851). |
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Aug-06-21
 | | MissScarlett: Good work. In 1857/58, he's said to be <of Paris> (see C.N. 6079). It's possible he still had business dealings with the <duchy of Savoy, kingdom of Sardinia> mentioned above, which was in political imbo between France and Italy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy...). |
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Apr-06-24
 | | MissScarlett: Hoffer in the <Westminster Gazette>, December 7th 1901, p.3: <There are many games on record by the late Herr Schulten. He was an enthusiast, and played only with first-class players. In Paris, 1865, he appeared at the Cafe de la Regence, and had many a brilliant skirmish with Kolisch and Hirschfeld - the brilliancy, of course, on the side of his opponents. This class of amateurs is now extinct. Herr Schulten was a portly gentleman of the old school, in appearance not unlike the late Prince Bismarck, plus a pair of gold spectacles and a perruque - quite a chef-d'œuvre of a French artist.> A perruque is a wig. |
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Jul-24-24
 | | MissScarlett: The <ILN> of October 11th 1856, p.377, reports the 'gross score' of a series of matches between Schulten and Jules Arnous de Riviere as +62 -25 =2 in favour of the Frenchman. Schulten considered draws to be an occupational hazard. |
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