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| Jul-03-15 | | zanzibar: <jnpope> has recently posted various chess articles from <The Field>, an important early source. In them I found this: http://www.chessarch.com/excavation... Where Harrwitz 1853 challenge to Staunton is published. This match was never undertaken, but as batgirl notes: <Staunton continued to refuse to play Harrwitz, but in all likelihood, Harrwitz was London's strongest player.> Supposedly, Staunton turned down the match, but the exact reasons are very complicated. I've seen some mention it was done in insulting fashion. Some of the long story is retold on the pages of the <Chess Player's Chronicle>: https://books.google.com/books?id=7... (scroll down 1/2 page to begin) and also here:
https://books.google.com/books?id=7... One must remember that the <Chess Player's Chronicle> was basically Staunton's mouthpiece, as he was editor (and owner). On the other hand, Harrwitz became editor of the <British Chess Review> during the same period: <The second match (ed- against Williams) spanned 1852-53 and Harrwitz won that one 7-2. It was during the second match that Harrwitz took a job as editor of the British Chess Review.> (from batgirl's bio) Some people have written that Staunton only kept on at the <Chess Player's Chronicle> to maintain access to the public during the Harrwitz match debacle: https://books.google.com/books?id=C... Harding's <Eminent Victorian Chess Players: Ten Biographies> p60-63 where he describes how after Staunton sold the <Chess Player's Chronicle> to Brien (penname Oxoniensis) in July 1854 the magazine began a downhill slide to its demise about two years later. |
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| Jul-03-15 | | zanzibar: When Morphy came to Europe in 1858, one of his goals was to play Staunton. That match never same about, yet Morphy's trip is basically viewed as his crowning as World Chess Championship (such as it was at the time). But who exactly did he beat to take the "crown"?
Besides Staunton, Harrwitz must be viewed as one of the strongest players at the time. <In 1848 Harrwitz returned the Breslau for a visit. He played a relatively unknown chess problemist named Adolf Anderssen. The match called for the best out of eleven but when it reached 5 -5, they mutually agreed to end it. [...]In 1856 Harrwitz moved to Paris and settled in as the club professional at the Café de la Régence. He beat Jules Arnous De Rivière in a match 5-2. Then came Morphy > > (batgirl again) Edward Winter has an entire article devoted to early uses of the term WCC - http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... Where we find:
<(Regarding the Morphy v Harrwitz match): ‘… no man living can tell whether, or no, these two gentlemen are not now engaged in fighting for the Chess championship of the whole world!’ C.H. Stanley, Harper’s Weekly, 9 October 1858.> Also in <The World of Chess> by Saidy and Lessing on p104: <Morphy proceeded to Paris, the scene of his most brillant accomplishments. His most important match, held at the Cafe de la Regence, was with Daniel Harrwitz. Like Fischer in his 1972 match with Spassky, Morphy lost the first two games (some pundits have suggested that Fischer was trying to emulate Morphy when he forfeited his second game), but he went on to win the match by a score of 5 wins, 2 losses and 1 draw, when Harrwitz pleaded he could not continue because of illness. [...]> |
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| Feb-22-16 | | TheFocus: Happy birthday, Daniel Harrwitz. |
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| Jun-22-18 | | zanzibar: Not sure if Staten Island's story itself is true, but it sound credible enough, though maybe too good to be true. Still, it did appear in print: <
Harrwitz, the great Prussian player, had a sharp tongue as well as sharp chess ability. In his match with Staunton he made a move which; caused
lengthy consideration on the part of the English master. Staunton leaned back in his chair and stroked his forehead, giving the spectators the impression that he was undergoing great mental agonies. The more he looked at the position, the less he liked it. At length he savagely exclaimed, "Well, I've lost a move." and plunked down a piece. Harrwitz, coolly rising In his place, jingled the bell to call a waiter. Upon one coming: "Walter, look about for a move! Mr. Staunton has lost one." ? --Staten Islander.
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SF Call - 1913-07-13 - p44c2 |
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Jun-22-18
 | | offramp: <zanzibar: ...Harrwitz, coolly rising In his place, jingled the bell to call a waiter. Upon one coming: "Walter, look about for a move! Mr. Staunton has lost one."> Very funny that the waiter's name was Walter. It's probably the best name for a waiter. |
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| Jun-23-18 | | zanzibar: <<off> Very funny that the waiter's name was Walter. It's probably the best name for a waiter.> Jon, Russell, or Chris also seem good:
https://www.bustle.com/articles/509... Chris seems to have the edge. |
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Jun-23-18
| | offramp: <zanzibar>, Russel Crowe was bashing out espressos at a fake Starbucks when we had this dreadful conversation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrO...
He can be such a git! |
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| Jun-23-18 | | zanzibar: Oh, that was a bit painful...
And so, in return, a video which maybe can't be heartily recommended, but is both off and apropos... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG9...
<Waiters>
(There also the loose nut connection with <CG>) |
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| Sep-30-18 | | sudoplatov: Waiters are named Arnold, Jean-Claude, Sylvester, Charles or Stephan. Not to be confused with actors Schwarzenegger, van Damme, Stallone, Norris or Seagal. |
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| Feb-22-19 | | Pyrandus: H. geboren in Breslau? It was an German City. //Wroclaw = a Polish City, ohne Germans//. |
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| Jan-05-20 | | Carrots and Pizza: Playing over Harrwitz' games, one gets the impression that he was ahead of his time because he could play positional chess rather well. In a few of the games I looked through, he appeared to be a very careful and accurate player who understood the finer points. I find it surprising that he lost to Staunton 0-7. What a wipeout. Also find it surprising that his matches with Horwitz were so close because Horwitz' play seems very weak. Wasn't Harrwitz one of the first ever professional chess players? Perhaps his peak was in the late 1850s when he played Morphy? Maybe that's when he could have beaten Staunton and more lopsidedly whooped the other guys. |
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| Jan-05-20 | | Carrots and Pizza: <A photograph of the player, maybe preferred to the above pen illustration, is also available: http://www.edochess.ca/batgirl/Davi... I love those old pieces! |
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| Oct-20-20 | | Chesgambit: Harrwitz lose to Anderssen (blindfold) |
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Dec-28-20
 | | MissScarlett: No offence, but he was little more than a dwarf. He made Morphy look tall. |
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Mar-02-21
 | | Stonehenge: <he was little more than a dwarf> Adolf Anderssen, Serafino Dubois and Daniel Harrwitz, London 1862: https://images.app.goo.gl/SS6uWmDRH... |
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May-25-21
| | MissScarlett: <When his father died, he retired to Bolzano in the Austrian Alps with a small family inheritance.> Is it known when this was?
His <Jewish Encyclopedia> entry has: <In 1862, owing to ill health, Harrwitz was compelled to relinquish active participation in the game.> https://jewishencyclopedia.com/arti... So his career apparently ended in an even more abrupt way than Morphy's, but I'm wondering if that's really the case. His last games in the DB are a couple of wins over the nascent Blackburne in December 1862 (having inflicted the same on Steinitz in 1860). Was he back in France in 1863? There must be further sightings. |
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| Jul-19-21 | | Z truth 000000011: <<Missy> No offence, but he was little more than a dwarf. He made Morphy look tall.> Daniel Harrwitz (kibitz #54) Oh, that was cringe-worthy.
Anyways, I'm here because of <Missy> - who dug out some nice copy of old suggesting Harrwitz was a nimble (i.e. fast) player (more so than Steinitz it seems). His bio doesn't mention anything of the sort, and I don't see any matter of the time controls of the last couple of his matches here on <CG> (e.g. the Morphy match would be nice to know). |
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| Jul-19-21 | | Z truth 000000011: MacDonnell - Mackenzie (1862/63) (kibitz #1) |
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| Jul-19-21 | | Z truth 000000011: Can <CG> bang out a tournament page for his 1853 match with Lowenthal? (Or his 1849(?) match with Horwitz?) |
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Jul-19-21
| | MissScarlett: Thanks for volunteering. Some of the spadework (excuse the expression) is already done: Game Collection: Harrwitz - Horwitz (1849) Game Collection: Harrwitz - Loewenthal (1853) |
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| Jul-19-21 | | Z truth 000000100: Good stuff <Missy>. As I like to say... <Promote, promote, promote!> I did notice, after a quick bit of legwork, that your stats in the actual finished product seems a bit, er, shall we say, thin : https://www.google.com/search?q=%22... (Half credit for one promoted collection)
This, despite your extensive collection of collections otherwise at the ready. * * * * *
Compare this to the innumerable contributions of <Tab>: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22... (8 pages of google results! Whatever will <CG> do when <Tab> retires in December?!!) * * * * *
If you were to promote the two nice Harrwitz collections, you'd at least surpass the spotty contributions of this bloke: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22... (2.5 vs 2)
I guess the clocks still out on the time controls though.Good stuff <Missy>. As I like to say... <Promote, promote, promote!> I did notice, after a quick bit of legwork, that your stats in the actual finished product seems a bit, er, shall we say, thin : https://www.google.com/search?q=%22... (Half creation for the one promoted collection)
This, despite your extensive collection of collections otherwise at the ready. * * * * *
Compare this to the innumerable contributions of <Tab>: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22... (8 pages of google results! Whatever will <CG> do when <Tab> retires in December?!!) * * * * *
If you were to promote the two nice Harrwitz collections, you'd at least surpass the spotty contributions of this bloke: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22... (2.5 vs 2)
I guess the clocks still out on the time controls though. |
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Jul-19-21
| | MissScarlett: I have a dread of finishing any project I've started - that final 10% in terms of quality, requires at least 50% of the total effort. I'm sure all the great artists were the same. |
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| Jul-20-21 | | Z4all: I might disagree with the percentages, but I can commiserate with the sentiment. Funny. |
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| Jul-20-21 | | Z4all: (And apologies on my account for the doubled posting - oops) |
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Oct-29-22
 | | fredthebear: A CG statement says that numerous Z accounts such as this <Z truth 000000100>, <Z truth 000000011>, and <Z4all> have been disabled. |
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