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| Jun-21-03 | | Ezely Nakhdov: A Queen sacrifice after sacrificing 2 rooks?! I would never have gotten this one. Great puzzle! |
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| Jun-21-03 | | Jonber: 12...Ne5 13.Bxe5 Qxh1  was Black's last hope. Not much of a hope though... |
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| Jun-21-03 | | Shadout Mapes: I would never have gotten it if it weren't for all the Boden's Mate sacrifices earlier. This time I looked at it for 30 seconds or so and said, "Hey! Double rook sacrifice!" |
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| Jun-21-03 | | patzer2: If you missed the earlier discussions of this mating theme, see R Schulder vs S Boden, 1853. |
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| Jun-21-03 | | patzer2: In addition to "Boden's mate" the tactical theme illustrated is "removing the guard." In this case, the entire purpose of the double rook sacrifice is to remove the queen from guarding the a file to allow for the winning 14...Ba6#, preceeded by the forcing 13...Qxc6+. |
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| Jun-21-03 | | Larsker: This is the game patzer2 mentions: R Schulder vs S Boden, 1853 |
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| Jun-21-03 | | MoonlitKnight: 11...Qb6, sadly for black the only move. |
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| Jun-21-03 | | cheelay: I'm wondering if these positions are ever overlooked in high-level games. It seems easier to find the win when it's presented as a problem, but maybe at the board a tactic like this wouldn't be as apparent. |
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Jun-21-03
 | | paulalbert: By pure coincidence I was looking at Fred Reinfeld's old book ( 1956 ) How to Play Chess Like a Champion which uses this game as an illustration of creative master play against amateurs in simuls, so I immediately saw the solution when I came on this morning.
I agree with the comment that these things are relatively easy to solve when you are told that there is a devastating move in the position. Setting them up and foreseeing the possibilities in advance in your own games is much harder, but I have found that doing these exercises makes me more alert to similar possibilities in my own games. |
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| Jun-21-03 | | ZScore: The previous mates involving both bishops allowed me to see the answer very quickly. |
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| Jun-21-03 | | Jonber: <cheelay> Tactical opportunities like the one above are frequently missed in high-level games, and if FIDE continues the catastrophic tendency to use faster time controls, they will become even more usual, along with all sort of blunders and mistakes. Here’s a recent example: Ftacnik vs Savchenko, 2003
On move 33 Lubomir Ftacnik misses a forced mate, and must settle with a draw. |
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| Jun-21-03 | | patzer2: <MoonlitKnight> In analyzing the suggested 11...Qb6, white sits a piece up with an easy win. The chesslab.com computer program prefers white hold on to his pawns and control the center after 11...Qb6 with 12. Bd6. One recommended continuation goes 11...Qb6 12. Bd6 Re8 13. Qxf7 Nh6 14. Qf4 Nf5 15. Bc5 g5 16. Qxg5 Nxc5 17. dxc5 Qxb4 18. Rxa7 Qxc5 (chesslab.com analysis) and white has an easy win. However, with a piece up and no serious opposing threats, a simple developing move like 12. 0-0 is also good for white. Play could go 11...Qb6 12. 0-0 Ndf6 [if 12. ... Ne7, then 13. Ne4 Nf6 14. Nd6+ Rxd6 15. Bxd6 Nf5 16. Be5 Nxd4 is won for white] 13. Be5 Ne7 14. b5 Rhe8 15. Na4 Qa5 16. Nc5 Qd2 and white is winning easily (chesslab.com analysis). |
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| Jun-21-03 | | patzer2: <cheelay> A GM would see the winning moves in at most a couple of seconds. If 11...Qxb4 or 11...Qb6, avoiding Boden's Mate, white is happy to remain a piece up with the initiative in an easily won position |
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| Nov-25-04 | | TheBestPatzer: Just look at the final position and pay attention to two things: (1) the tremendous (and useless) material unbalance, and (2) the position of the two white bishops vs the position of the black queen! That's the beauty of chess. |
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| Nov-25-04 | | TheBestPatzer: Esteban Canal was a Peruvian chess player (the best of his time in Peru) and this game is righfully called "The Peruvian Immortal". Of course, the opponent is not a Byrne, Kieseritzky, Dufresne, or Bardeleben, but that is a secondary factor. |
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| Apr-05-05 | | Theoryhack: Pawn at c6 + OOO + white bishop on h2 b8 diagonal = danger! |
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| Oct-22-05 | | soberknight: <Jonber: 12...Ne5 13.Bxe5 Qxh1 was Black's last hope. Not much of a hope though...> Play would probably have continued 14 Bxg7 Ne7 15 Bxh8 Rxh8 16 Qxf7 (or Qf6) and White is winning. |
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| Oct-23-05 | | kevin86: Canal gives up queen and both rooks and delivers a beautiful Boden's Mate in fourteen moves!! Could it get better than this?! |
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| Oct-23-05 | | notsodeepthought: That's odd, just as we were commenting on exactly this type of mate on the P Ofstad vs Uhlmann, 1963 page, here it comes in this game too. Thanks for bringing it up. |
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Nov-20-05
 | | FSR: After 12...Ne5!, soberknight's suggestion 13.Bxe5 Qxh1 14.Bxg7 Ne7 15.Bxh8 Rxh8 16.Qxf7 (or 16.Qf6 Ng6) Kd8 17.Qxe6 Qh2 no doubt wins for White, though it might take a while. But simpler is 13.Rxa1! Nxf3+ 14.Bxf3 a6 (14...Rxd4+ 15.Ke3 Rxb4 16.Rxa7 and 17.Ra8+ is even worse) 15. Ne4!, when the threat of Nd6+ forces 15...Rxd4+ 16.Ke3 Rxe4+ 17.Bxe4 Ne7 18.c4, when White, with a piece for two pawns, and the bishop pair, easily wins the endgame. |
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Jan-24-06
 | | LIFE Master AJ: Edward Lasker vs F Englund, 1913 is another example of this type pf mate. |
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| Mar-30-06 | | DeepBlade: The Peruvian Immortal is the name given to a spectacular chess game played by the Peruvian master (later grandmaster) Esteban Canal against an unknown amateur in a simultaneous exhibition he gave at Budapest in 1934. |
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| Mar-29-07 | | gambitfan: A wonderful <Boden's mate>!
White to play and mate in 2 moves!
click for larger view |
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| Apr-09-07 | | gambitfan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peruvi... |
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| Apr-09-07 | | gambitfan: Game Collection: BODEN'S MATES |
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