| Rubinstein - Mieses (1909) |
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After St. Petersburg (1909), Akiba Rubinstein travelled first to Meran, Italy, to recreate and returned to Berlin, Germany, at the beginning of May to contest a match against Jacques Mieses whom he had beaten decisively in a 3-game match from four years previous: <1905 match> 1 2 3 Pts
Rubinstein 1 1 1 3.0 A: Rubinstein vs J Mieses, 1905
Mieses 0 0 0 0.0 B: J Mieses vs Rubinstein, 1905
A B C C: the 3rd game score has not been recovered.
The 10 games match took place in three cities in Germany from May 12 to 27, 1909. The first six games were played in Berlin, Game 7 was played in Hannover and the last three games in Frankfurt am Main. (1)Mieses took revenge for 1905 by winning the first three games. But Rubinstein recovered from that disastrous start winning the next game. After a draw in Game 5, Rubinstein won three consecutive games and, after another draw in Game 9, the last game. (1) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0
Rubinstein 0 0 0 1 = 1 1 1 = 1 6.0
Mieses 1 1 1 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 4.0
Rubinstein had White in the even-numbered games.Source: Pages 198-202 of J Donaldson & N Minev, The Life & Games of Akiva Rubinstein - Volume 1: Uncrowned King, 2nd edition, 2006, Russell Enterprises, Inc., Milford, CT, USA. (1) Wiener Schachzeitung, 1909, pp. 239-240; Berliner Tageblatt and Hamburgischer Correspondent, May and June 1909 issues. Original collections: Game Collection: Rubinstein vs. Mieses, Match 1 (1905) and Game Collection: Rubinstein - Mieses, Match 2 (1909) were both collected by User: Karpova.
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Mar-04-17
 | | offramp: A fascinating match. I wonder if Rubinstein ever lost three games in a row to any other <single opponent>. Losing three in a row to <the same opponent> must be rare for a top-5 player at his peak, as Rubinstein was in 1909. But I remember that Karpov lost 3 in a row to Kasparov in 1985, then Kasparov lost 3 in a row to Karpov in 1986! Korchnoi lost 4 in a row to Spassky in 1977...
Botvinnik and Smyslov both suffered at each other's hands. I can't think of such sequences for Capablanca or Lasker. Fischer did lose 4 in a row to Tal but Fischer was pretty young at the time, 16 I think. Hang on, did Fischer lose 3 in a row to Spassky, ending with game 1 of the 1972 match? |
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| Mar-04-17 | | john barleycorn: <offramp: A fascinating match. I wonder if Rubinstein ever lost three games in a row to any other <single opponent>. Losing three in a row to <the same opponent> must be rare for a top-5 player at his peak, as Rubinstein was in 1909. ...>
Did not Rubinstein offset it by winning 3 in a row? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 Pts
Rubinstein 0 0 0 1 = 1 1 1 = 1 6.0
Mieses 1 1 1 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 4.0 |
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| Mar-04-17 | | JimNorCal: Dang. Rubinstein was at or near the height of his powers in 1909. Quite a feat by Meister Mieses. Or maybe AR was recovering from flu or food poisoning or something. |
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Mar-04-17
| | offramp: <john barleycorn:...Did not Rubinstein offset it by winning 3 in a row?> But that is like DOG BITES MAN and MAN BITES DOG. One of those two is not newsworthy. |
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| Mar-04-17 | | john barleycorn: <offramp: <john barleycorn:...Did not Rubinstein offset it by winning 3 in a row?> But that is like DOG BITES MAN and MAN BITES DOG. One of those two is not newsworthy.> Claim it "Fake news", my friend :-) "dog bite dog" why would anybody claim Mieses the underdog? Old age? |
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| Mar-04-17 | | Marmot PFL: Rubinstein won his first four games against Alekhine (1910-1914), then Alekhine won three straight (1921-1922). After that Alekhine had a 4-1 edge in decisive games but there were also a couple draws. Fischer beat Larsen 6-0, later won the last four games to win the match with Petrosian. Both were top 5 at the time I believe (Fischer, Spassky, Larsen, Korchnoi, Petrosian). |
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Mar-04-17
| | offramp: <Marmot PFL:...Fischer beat Larsen 6-0, later won the last four games to win the match with Petrosian.> Very good. Petrosian losing 4-in-a-row is a very unusual occurrence. I should have remembered that. Steinitz lost 4-in-a-row to Zukertort, 1886, when he was world number 1. |
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| Jun-01-18 | | zanzibar: The tournament intro should note that several of the games are undated, and therefore the game listing is <out-of-order>. If <CG> were to list the round number in the game listing table we'd at least have a fighting chance. Gheesh! |
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Jun-02-18
 | | Tabanus: Neue Freie Presse (Vienna):
http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/a... reports on game 5 in Berlin, and says game 6 will be played in Berlin "tomorrow" and that the match will then be moved to Hannover. http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/a... reports on game 7 in Hannover. http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/a... on games 8 and 9 in Frankfurt am Main. http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/a... on game 10 in Frankfurt am Main. Confirming the Wiener Schachzeitung. The NFP dates can probably be used with some reservation. |
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Jun-02-18
| | Tabanus: Based also on Berliner Tageblatt and other newspapers at http://www.theeuropeanlibrary.org/t... I get these dates: May 12, 13, 14, 16, 19, 20, 22, 24, 25, 26. Confirming Karpova's dates, and adding 19, 20 and 22 May for games 5-7. Ready for X-raying. |
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| Jun-02-18 | | zanzibar: Good job, <tab>. Nice to get it fully sussed out. |
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