| Tata Steel Challengers (2014) |
|
Played in Wijk aan Zee, Netherlands 11-26 January 2014. The Challengers group replaced the previous year's Group B and Group C. Crosstable (https://history.tatasteelchess.com/...) : Elo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4
1 Saric 2637 * ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 1 1 ½ 1 1 ½ 1 10
2 Timman 2607 ½ * ½ ½ 1 ½ 0 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 8½
3 Jobava 2710 ½ ½ * ½ 0 1 1 ½ 1 0 ½ 1 1 1 8½
4 Muzychuk 2566 ½ ½ ½ * ½ ½ 0 1 ½ 1 1 ½ ½ 1 8
5 Reinderman 2593 0 0 1 ½ * ½ 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 8
6 Bok 2560 ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ * 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ 0 1 ½ 7
7 Yu Yangyi 2677 0 1 0 1 0 0 * 1 ½ 0 ½ 1 1 1 7
8 Duda 2553 0 0 ½ 0 1 ½ 0 * ½ 1 1 ½ 1 1 7
9 Wojtaszek 2711 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ * 1 ½ 1 1 1 7
10 Brunello 2602 ½ 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 * ½ ½ 1 ½ 6
11 Troff 2457 0 ½ ½ 0 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ * ½ 1 0 4½
12 Zhao Xue 2567 0 0 0 ½ 0 1 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ * ½ 1 4½
13 Van Delft 2430 ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ½ * 1 3
14 Goudriaan 2431 0 0 0 0 0 ½ 0 0 0 ½ 1 0 0 * 2
The winner Ivan Saric qualified for participation in Tata Steel Masters (2015).Previous: Tata Steel Group B (2013). Next: Tata Steel Challengers (2015). See also Tata Steel Masters (2014)
|
|
| page 1 of 4; games 1-25 of 91 |
     |
 |
|
| page 1 of 4; games 1-25 of 91 |
|
|
|
|
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 4 OF 4 ·
Later Kibitzing> |
Jan-22-14
 | | WannaBe: I believe, if Bok gains 1.5 pts, GM norm will be earned. |
|
| Jan-22-14 | | haydn20: Interesting how Anna M. is moseying along undefeated at +3. |
|
| Jan-22-14 | | schweigzwang: I've been reading a bit more about norms since I asked my question earlier. I had been surprised to hear (on the live commentary) that Bok had earned his third GM norm after achieving 5 points in the first 9 rounds, especially since earlier it had been mentioned that 6.5 points would be needed. According to my understanding (possibly quite flawed) of the FIDE rules found at http://www.fide.com/component/handb... a tournament generally needs to be at least 9 rounds, and there are other provisos concerning # of federations represented, # of titled players among the opposition, etc. etc. There is a table that indicates that for a 13-round event, a score of 7/13 or better is needed if the average rating of participants is in the range 2571-2599. However, rule 1.42(e) states
<1.42e
A player who has achieved a title result before the last round may ignore all games played subsequently, provided (a) he has met the required mix of opponents.
(b) this leaves him with at least the minimum number of games as in 1.41. (c) in the case of a tournament with pre-determined pairings, the full requirements, other than score, must be met for the complete tournament.> "Minimum # of games as in 1.41" translates in this case to 9. I suppose Bok must have met the right mix of opponents (incl. titled players and high avg. rating), so that no matter what happens in rounds 10-13, this as if he'd scored well enough in a nine-round event to get the norm. Looks like it also means that Troff would have to win out from this point to get the GM norm. |
|
Jan-22-14
| | WannaBe: <schweigzwang> Thanks for the detailed explanation. Bok may now offer a draw after 6 moves. =)) |
|
| Jan-22-14 | | Bob Loblaw: Jobava appears poised to take top spot. His toughest challenge will be that great player from the Karpov era, Jan Timman. Meanwhile, Saric will face Yu who will be out to make the best of a poor showing in a tournament many thought he would win, and Brunello, who is playing stronger chess with each round. Anything can happen, but it is unlikely that the Moldovian will lose to Kayden Troff or Dimitri Reinderman. |
|
| Jan-24-14 | | The Last Straw: <Bob Loblaw> Uh oh. Jobava losing against Timman and Saric winning against Zhao Xue. |
|
| Jan-24-14 | | notyetagm: Tata Steel (Group B) (2014)
<The Last Straw: <Bob Loblaw> Uh oh. Jobava losing against Timman <<<and Saric winning against Zhao Xue.>>>> Saric wins. Zhao Xue lost her a7- and b6-pawns and promptly resigned. http://chessbomb.com/o/2014-tata-b/... |
|
| Jan-24-14 | | MarkFinan: Unbelievable that Timman is still playing at this kinda level. He's 12 days older than my old man! and I thought people my age were too old for this chess malarkey, lol. ✌ |
|
| Jan-24-14 | | DcGentle: Timman, Jan H - Jobava, Baadur
Tata Steel Challengers Wijk aan Zee NED (11.1), 2014.01.241.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 g6 4.Nc3 Bg7 5.e4 O-O 6.Bd3 e6 7.e5 Ne8 8.Nf3 d6 9.Bg5 Qc7 10.Nb5 Qd7 11.dxe6 Qxe6 12.Be3 dxe5 13.Bxc5 e4 14.Ng5 Qe5 15.Nxe4 f5 16.Bxf8 Kxf8 17.O-O fxe4 18.Re1 Bf5 19.Bxe4 Bxe4 20.Nc3 Nf6 21.Nxe4 Nxe4 22.Qf3+ Qf5 23.Qxe4 Qxe4 24.Rxe4 Na6 25.Re2 Rc8 26.Rd1 Rxc4 27.Rd8+ Kf7 28.Rd7+ Kf6 29.g3 Rc7 30.Ree7 Rc1+ 31.Kg2 Bf8 32.Rxh7 Bc5 33.Rxb7 Rc2 34.Rhf7+ Ke5 35.a3 Bb6 36.b4 Nc7 37.Rb8 Nd5 38.Re8+ Kd6 39.Rf3 g5 40.h3 Ra2 41.Re4 Nc3 42.Re1 Nd5 43.h4 g4 44.Rf8 Ne3+ 45.Kg1 Nc4 46.Rf6+ Kd5 47.Rf5+ Kd6 48.Re4 Nb2 49.Rf6+ Kd5 50.Rxg4 Nd3 51.Rg5+ Ke4 52.Rgf5 Rxa3 53.Kg2 Ra2 54.h5 Be3 55.Rf7 Rb2 56.b5 Rc2 57.R5f6 Bd4 58.Re7+ Kd5 59.Rf5+ Kd6 60.Ref7 Ne5 61.R7f6+ Ke7 62.Rf4 Be3 63.R4f5 Bd4 64.Rf8 Ng4 65.R5f7+ Ke6 66.Rf4 Bc5 67.R8f7 Bd6 68.Rf3 Rb2 69.h6 Rxb5 70.Rg7 Nf6 71.g4 Be5 72.h7 Rb8 73.Rh3 Rh8 74.g5 Nd5 75.Rh6+ Kf5 76.Rg8 Ne7 77.Rxh8 Bxh8 78.f4 Kxf4 79.Re6 Nf5 80.g6 Kg5 ½-½ Timman should have won the game, position after <73... Rh8> 
click for larger viewWhite to move played <74. g5?> But it was not easy to see, what the winning maneuver was. Timman should have exploited the unprotected position of Black's king, constructing pins like so: 74. Kf3 a5 75. Rh6 a4 76. g5 a3 77. Ra7 a2 78. g6 Kf5 79.
Rxa2 Ne8 80. Ra6 Ng7 81. Ra5 Kg5 82. Rh3 Kf5 83. Ke2 Kf6 84.
Rf3+ Kxg6 85. Rxe5 Nh5 86. Ra3 Ng7 87. Rg3+ Kxh7 88. Re7 Rg8
89. Ke3 Kh6 90. Ke4 Ra8 91. Rgxg7
click for larger viewBlack to move can resign.
This is not easy to see over the board.
Ģ |
|
| Jan-24-14 | | SirRuthless: Was surprised to see Jobava hold and even more surprised to see Muzychuk lose. She has played a clean event thus far and I was hoping to see her in a small quadrangular DRR Unive type event later in the year with some stronger GMs. |
|
| Jan-25-14 | | Refused: Congratulations to GM Ivan Saric for winning Group B. |
|
| Jan-25-14 | | Willem Wallekers: Congratulations to Ivan Saric for <definitely> winning the challengers group. |
|
Jan-25-14
 | | ketchuplover: ditto |
|
| Jan-25-14 | | The Last Straw: Good job Saric. Still feeling sorry for Jobava messing up these last few rounds. @#$% Mr.Goudriaan!! |
|
| Jan-25-14 | | dwadefoley: Muzychuk played a very nice attacking game against Brunello - 21. Nxc6! followed by again 29. Nc6! a nice problem-like echo! Go Anna! |
|
| Jan-25-14 | | Aleksandar Li: Greetings comunity! Here, I would like a share a sort of closer information concerning Ivan Saric. My native town Livno is just a 80 km from Ivan's-Split, and Miljenko Jergovic has published story about a man who travels from Split to Livno and something about the war in Bosnia eventually (haven't red it, yet) I gues, which is just by the way (for some readers maybe), and something less important for this post of mine here. I want to say some things about Ivan. Me and my chess friends follow him for more than 10 years, and we have been expecting Ivan to show up globally. So this is the time and young lion and my neighbour in a way is about to play in the prime section next year. Congratulations for him and his father and brother, his wife and all chess family and friends. But my point here is next: Mr. Ivan Saric is able to become one of the few on the top, and, as I see it, he will take this and next year to make some considerable growth in his rating status and global chess affirmation. And, as I am predicting it, I am looking forward that we will be one of his followers and comentators. In the end, I would like to mention that Ivan's treatment of peaces seems to me like a very serious thing, and I am happy for him for this success in Netherlands! My positiveness and best regards to all the chess lovers world wide! |
|
| Jan-25-14 | | torrefan: Let's then give a warm global chess affirmation to cro777's countryman, Ivan Saric! |
|
Jan-25-14
 | | Penguincw: Congrats to Ivan Saric for winning the tournament. +7 is an impressive score, and it could've been +8 if he hadn't let Jobava off the hook. Just 6 rounds ago, everyone thought Jobava would be the man to beat, but Saric got hot! Saric has gained 25 rating points (up to 2652), and could get a few more if he can beat Sabino Brunello tomorrow with black. Brunello has lost 10 points. Jobava, despite at +4, has dropped a point.
I also see that Etienne Goudriaan picked up his first win of the tournament, meaning every player now has at least 1 win, draw and loss (except for the undefeated Saric). If Goudriaan can beat Jan-Krzysztof Duda tomorrow with black and Merijn van Delft loses to Dimitri Reinderman with black, then Goudriaan can move into a TIE for last place. Still a pretty disappointing tournament, dropping 15 points to 2416. Also, Goudriaan lost the individual matchup. |
|
| Jan-26-14 | | evilkenevil: Kudos to jan. You're still hot and sizzling. Just like beating "tolya" on his prime! |
|
Jan-26-14
 | | Peligroso Patzer: <schweigzwang>, thanks for the explanation of the GM norm requirements posted on 1/22. You seem to conclude that Bok's 5 points over the first 9 rounds met the GM norm requirement. I do wonder, however, about proviso (c) from 1.42e (as quoted in your post), which seems to say that for a round-robin event, the norm must be achieved over the course of the full schedule. |
|
| Jan-26-14 | | schweigzwang: <Peligroso Patzer>
I confess that I don't know what exactly is meant by "pre-determined pairings." It sure seems that a round-robin for which the full schedule is known in advance of the start of play--as in this (and, probably, most) round robins--sounds like "pre-determined" pairings. But perhaps there's another kind of tournament. I'll look again through the regulations when I get a chance. I'm essentially assuming that all the commentators knew what they were talking about when they congratulated Bok on his final GM norm. Perhaps the key phrase is "other than score"--that is, as long as various other provisos (I don't know which ones) are met, the "abbreviated" score is ok? I welcome all actual experts to chime in and set us straight ... |
|
| Jan-26-14 | | Refused: <dwadefoley: Muzychuk played a very nice attacking game against Brunello - 21. Nxc6! followed by again 29. Nc6! a nice problem-like echo! Go Anna!> You are aware, that 28...Qe5?? was a real howler from Brunello. The position might have been a bit unpleasent for him, but it was far from over. 28...Qe5?? was simply a blunder that ended the game instantly. |
|
| Jan-26-14 | | dwadefoley: <Refused You are aware, that 28...Qe5?? was a real howler from Brunello. The position might have been a bit unpleasent for him, but it was far from over. 28...Qe5?? was simply a blunder that ended the game instantly.> I'm well aware that ...Qe5 was a blunder (most games end decisively because of one or more of those, right?). The fact remains that it was a nice game with an attractive tactical echo theme and Muzychuk played well throughout the game. I stand by my congratulations of her for this game (and her overall fine performance in this event). |
|
| Jan-26-14 | | Refused: I won't argue with that one, you just made it sound like it was some deep combination that Brunello missed, while 28...Qe5 was really just a one move blunder by Brunello.
Overall Muzychuk played a great tournament and was justly rewarded with a shread 4th. |
|
| Jan-26-14 | | brankat: Congratulations Ivan! Great work. |
|
|
|
|
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 4 OF 4 ·
Later Kibitzing> |
|
|
|
NOTE: Create an account today
to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users.
Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username,
then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.
|
Please observe our posting guidelines:
- No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
- No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
- No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
- Nothing in violation of United States law.
- No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
- No trolling.
- The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.
- Do not degrade Chessgames or any of it's staff/volunteers.
Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.
NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic.
This forum is for this specific tournament only. To discuss chess or this site in general,
visit the Kibitzer's Café.
|
Messages posted by Chessgames members
do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration. |
Spot an error? Please suggest your correction and help us eliminate database mistakes!
Copyright 2001-2025, Chessgames Services LLC
|
Kibitzing
