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Sep-30-09 | | WhiteRook48: in the flesch |
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Oct-03-09
 | | GrahamClayton: <keypusher>I understand there is some controversy about the blindfold record -- is that true? Can anyone shed any light on this? Keypusher,
According to an interview with arbiter Stewart Reuben by Sean Marsh in the May 2009 issue of "Chess", Flesch's opponents in the 1960 52 game exhibition were "allegedly" asked to resign early. Obviously 3 of the 52 players did not heed that instruction! The interview mentioned nothing about Flesch having the game scores read back to him. |
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May-16-10 | | myschkin: . . .
<Jan-08-09 PhilFeeley: Perhaps this book can:> around p.101-110
http://books.google.de/books?id=Lv8... |
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Sep-08-13 | | Howard: As someone pointed out in one of the early comments, Flesch (and his wife) were killed in a car accident in London, in late 1983. In fact, they were both in town for the Kasparov-Korchnoi match. Chess Life had a short article about it, along with a picture of Flesch. |
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Sep-01-16
 | | offramp: Shoulda taken that blindfold off when driving, dude! |
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Oct-16-19 | | ndg2: I remember him as a book author, ne of the first chess books I bought was from him.didn'know he was killed in a car accident. |
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Apr-17-20
 | | MissScarlett: C.N. 5941
<The above list omits the display by János Flesch (supposedly 52 boards in Budapest in 1960) for the reasons discussed on pages 99-110. The last two pages of that section have a report entitled ‘A Sensational Postscript: Flesch vs Barcza!?’ which relates that four Hungarian contacts independently told the co-authors that a year or two after Flesch’s exhibition Gedeon Barcza described Flesch as a ‘crook’ and a ‘fraud’ and was then sued by Flesch for defamation of character. Whether any such case went to trial has yet to be established. Can it be hoped that a researcher in Hungary will look into the matter?> Needless to say, no-one ever did. |
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Dec-06-23 | | stone free or die: A google map of Whitstable:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/W... According to <Missy> the accident was on Thanet Way. Confusingly, google maps shows two Thanet Way's (zoom out one click to see) - a super highway (what is the British terminology?) A299, and what is presumably an older predecessor. . |
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Dec-06-23
 | | MissScarlett: Whitstable Times, December 16th 1983, p.1:
<An international chess grand master and his wife have been killed in another terrible Thanet Way pile-up.Hungarian star Janos Flesch was killed instantly when his car and a lorry collided near the junction with Seasalter Lane as he was returning to a chess congress on Friday afternoon. His wife Janosn, who was driving, was rescued from the vehicle, but died in hospital three hours later following a major operation. Firemen said the accident was the worst they had seen for several years. It took them nearly an hour to release 39-year-old Mrs. Flesch from the crushed Lada car. When they arrived she was still fully-conscious, with her husband lying dead beside her. A fireman said: "The woman was so badly trapped inside the car that everything we did put her in agony. "It was almost impossible to work, since her body was entwined in the metal we were trying to cut through." The accident took place at 2.10 p.m., 56 yards east of the junction with Seasalter Lane. The couple had been driving to Ramsgate, on their way to an international chess congress at the Regency Hotel. They had been in London for the morning. Mrs. Flesch's car, which was going up the hill towards Whitstable, collided with the lorry and was thrown back into another vehicle going towards Thanet. The lorry was being driven by Mr. Ronald Furness, of Basingstoke. He sustained minor bruising to his knee. It was carrying highly-inflammable propane gas cylinders and firemen believe that, if the car caught fire, the explosion would have proved disastrous. Traffic was held up for more than half-an-hour after the accident and tailed back several miles in both directions. Mr. Flesch, who was 50, left Ramsgate at 8.30 a.m. to go the Hungarian Embassy in London for a visa to visit Germany, where he was to play in a chess tournament this week. He was due back in the afternoon to play an Indian opponent, but telephoned from London to say he would be late. A spokesman said: "We waited, but he did not arrive, and at 6.30 p.m. the police rang to tell us of the accident." The 65 players were asked if if they wished to go ahead with the closing reception on Saturday night. They said they did, but stood in silence for a minute as a mark of respect. The couple leave two children in Hungary.> |
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Dec-07-23 | | stone free or die: Seasalter Lane is just outside Whitstable on the west. The original Thanet Way was redone, the original section being replaced became A2990. <The A299 was upgraded between 1989 and 1997 to dual carriageway for almost its entire length.[5][1] This included bypasses of Whitstable and Herne Bay, with the old road becoming the A2990. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A299_.... |
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Dec-07-23
 | | MissScarlett: <Howard: As someone pointed out in one of the early comments, Flesch (and his wife) were killed in a car accident in London, in late 1983. In fact, they were both in town for the Kasparov-Korchnoi match. Chess Life had a short article about it, along with a picture of Flesch.> Chess Life, March 1984, p.7:
<Hungarian GM Janos Flesch and his wife, Ildiko, died in an automobile accident December 9 in England. Flesch had been in England for several international events and as a spectator at the London candidates' matches. He is remembered as the world record holder for simultaneous blindfold play - 52 games!> No sign of a photo. So Mrs. Flesch's name was Ildiko, not Janosn (which I assumed was wrong). Flesch may have visited London to watch the Candidates matches, but not on the day he died. The <CL> news item above the one on Flesch reported the result of the Regency Masters event that Flesch had been playing in - it was won by Mark Hebden, second place shared by a host of players including GM Dmitry Gurevich and IM Sergey Kudrin. |
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Dec-07-23 | | stone free or die: <<Missy> So Mrs. Flesch's name was Ildiko, not Janosn (which I assumed was wrong).> You could (and in general, can) put an editorial indication of this in your copy: comme ca: <His wife Janosn [? - this may be incorrect, ed], ...> It would help the reader (and lend credibility to future claims). |
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Oct-30-24 | | cameosis: does anybody have a source for his middle name? thanks in advance. |
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Oct-30-24
 | | beatgiant: <cameosis> Are you sure he had one? As far as I understand, Hungarian names often don't include a middle name. |
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Oct-30-24 | | stone free or die: Looks like this is old (circa 1960) footage of him giving a blind simul in Hungary: https://filmhiradokonline.hu/watch....
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Oct-31-24 | | cameosis: <beatgiant> no, the reason i ask is because i want to verify. i see it listed here, but i couldn't find a source for it. |
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Oct-31-24 | | cameosis: in case you missed it - laszlo is listed as his middle name in the bio section. |
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Oct-31-24 | | stone free or die: I wonder how Gaige listed his name.
His tombstone can be viewed here:
https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flesc... I got it from the Hungarian wiki page on him, which, like his tombstone, also didn't list a middle name. |
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Nov-01-24 | | cameosis: found some contemporary newspaper death reports mentioning his middle name (washington post, leidsch dagblad), as well as »blindfold chess« by hearst and knott, p. 99 - apparently from direct communication between flesch and knott. |
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Nov-01-24 | | stone free or die: <cameosis> might be nice to have the specs for the newspapers too, but the book ref is nice. As in, it's nice to know your source(s)!
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Nov-01-24 | | cameosis: <zanzibar> google "janos laszlo flesch" in quotation marks and both hits will be on the first page, i didn’t save them, as confirmation was sufficient for me. |
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Nov-01-24 | | stone free or die: <cameosis> that's ok. Of course you know I have a slight obsession with refs and links - Here's a link to your <Blindfold Chess> reference: https://books.google.com/books?id=L... It also includes a BCM portrait. |
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Nov-01-24 | | cameosis: i have a physical copy of the book XD
yoi were asking for the newspapers,for the book i gave you the exact page. ☝🏿 |
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Nov-02-24
 | | Sally Simpson: His book ' Planning in Chess' is interesting, he opens by telling us the two Bishops are over rated and chess players of the past knew better how to play with Knights and modern chess players (written in 1983) have a lot to learn in this respect. You can agree or disagree but he has reader now being more flexible in thought. Quite a few games have been lost because a player has refused to chop a Knight with a Bishop at a critical moment because they have read somewhere that Bishops are better than Knights. So job done there. It reminded me of Michael Stean's 'Simple Chess' breaking down a difficult subject to explain in easy to grasp lumps with some well chosen examples. The trouble being from a personal point of view is you have to stick to the plan and not abandon it when the first two move trap presents itself. Good book. Source? I bought it at Chess Suppliers Scotland, Glasgow in 1984. |
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Nov-02-24 | | stone free or die: Hi <cameosis>. < i have a physical copy of the book XD
yoi were asking for the newspapers,for the book i gave you the exact page. ☝🏿> Yes, your book ref was excellent, I just turned it into a convenient online link (e.g. for those who don't have the book), and described it a bit more. I did the google search his full name, as you suggested, and found the newspapers you also mentioned. It's nice to be explicit. And it's also nice, and a service to other readers, to have a convenient link to go to the material referenced in a post. (Kinda like a <Source_url> tag in the PGN) |
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