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Jan-11-24
 | | perfidious: Most interesting; even in my teens, I had heard often of 'hot pants', but that is hardly the same thing as the clothing discussed herein. |
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Jan-11-24
 | | moronovich: To the newbies : The most important thing is inside the pants. |
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Jan-12-24
 | | Susan Freeman: <perdidious> <Most interesting; even in my teens, I had heard often of 'hot pants', but that is hardly the same thing as the clothing discussed herein>
I believe that is something else, worn by women, or at least girls. |
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| Jan-12-24 | | stone free or die: Apologies for misleading y'all - but the proper term is <"fornication pantaloons"> as I've learned from the <By Common Consent> blog. Blog author Sam Bunson describes it thusly:
<I had two reactions when I read this [i.e. fornication pantaloons]. The first was that those two words, put together, may be the greatest phrase in the history of clothing. The second, though, was skepticism. That sounds like too good a story to actually verify. > Use the source, Sam!
<Eight years later, the internet has lots of additional documents on it. And, it turns out, thereβs a decent reason to attribute it to Brigham Young: the Mormon Expositor. ...<"There are those fornication pantaloons, made on purpose for whores to button up in front. My pantaloons button up here (showing how), where they belong, that my secrets, that God has given unto me, should not be exposed."> Did Brigham Young actually say this? I kind of hope so, because it is tremendously awesome.> https://bycommonconsent.com/2014/08... Perhaps this description of the |
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Feb-27-24
 | | Gottschalk: Luckily he was interested in chess and became Philidor's disciple when he was in England.
Without Atwood, most of Philidor's games we know would not have survived - because he wrote down his games and those of other players with the French master. |
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Feb-27-24
| | Gottschalk: With practice and lessons from Philidor, Atwood became a strong player.
I think he got stronger than Verdoni- at least that's what the games that reached us show. |
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Feb-27-24
 | | MissScarlett: Page feels naked without his picture. Who cares if it isn't actually him? |
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Feb-27-24
 | | chancho: Edward Winter...
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Feb-28-24
 | | Sally Simpson: <Page feels naked without his picture. Who cares if it isn't actually him?> There is an 'Illegibly Signed Portrait of a George Atwood' up for auction on at Live Auctioneers. The attire looks like it could be late Georgian. https://stage-test.liveauctioneers.... We should put a bid in for it, post the portrait here for providence, change the signature to William Blake ( 1757 β 1827) and sell it on E-Bay. |
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| Feb-28-24 | | stone free or die: I'd suggest an Easter Egg, either one of the illustrations of his famous machine, or this: https://images.findagrave.com/photo... . |
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Feb-28-24
| | Sally Simpson: Hi Stoney,
He was the private secretary of William Pitt. He must have had portrait painted. So I net surfed to the Parliamentary Art Collection and discovered they have '10,000 works of art, divided between the House of Commons and the House of Lords.' https://committees.parliament.uk/co... Next time I'm in London to see Leyton Orient I'll pop into both and see if they have one. He went to Trinity College, they might have portrait of him. https://www.trin.cam.ac.uk/about/hi... I'll write to the address given;
The Keeper of the Pictures, Trinity College, Trinity Street, Cambridge CB2 1TQ. If all else fails, we know where he is buried...you bring the shovel, I'll bring a camera. |
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| Feb-28-24 | | stone free or die: Sorry <Sally>, but I'm not doing a Burke & Hare here, there, or anywhere. I'm skeptical, after all, one naturally assumes such an well known personage should already have a bona fide portrait published somewhere on the web if it existed. I certainly wish you well on the quest nonetheless - it would really be an accomplishment. I suppose it might be possible, given that the fake portrait probably misled some from engaging in the hunt previously. So - bon courage mon ami. Let us know... |
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Feb-28-24
| | Sally Simpson: I will snail mail The Keeper of the Portraits, I am not confident, but via a good conduct see what the parliament has. I bet the parliament has a lot of their artwork not on display. BTW, I see the joke but before anyone else corrects you. Burke and Hare never robbed a grave and actually committed their murders just around the corner from where I live. Towers were built in graveyards so watchmen could prevent grave robbing, a few still exist in Edinburgh and are shaped like giant Rooks. (The chess piece not the bird.) https://www.theedinburghexperience.... |
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| Feb-28-24 | | stone free or die: <<Sally> Burke and Hare never robbed a grave...> A mere technicality!
And please do inform the this official site - at historic-uk.com - of the same glaring oversight: <<The Story of Burke and Hare>The story of Burke and Hare, infamous grave-robbers and murderers in 19th century Edinburgh.> https://www.historic-uk.com/History... Still, Bobby would have loved to reside in the building shown in your link. |
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Feb-29-24
| | Sally Simpson: Hi Stoney,
If we cannot get a portrait of him then how about a picture of the painting he did of Milford Haven. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fil... They have Attwood (sic) in the heading. But the correct spelling is used later when they say the artist was George Atwood (1745β11 July 1807) the same d.o.b. we have here and he painted it in 1776. (now I'm wondering, did he do a selfie?) |
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| Feb-29-24 | | stone free or die: <Sally> have to admit you have a knack for whack. Don't think the mathematician ever painted though - couldn't find any mention of it in sources that are clearly identified with "our" <George Atwood>. . |
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Mar-01-24
| | Sally Simpson: Hi Stone,
<couldn't find any mention of it in sources that are clearly identified with "our" George Atwood>. If you go to that link with George's painting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fil... look at the authority file and click on chess games 31580 (George's C.G. player I.D.) you will see that chessgames.com is actually being used as some kind of proof that it is our George. That authority link takes you too; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess... |
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| Mar-01-24 | | stone free or die: Yeah, I think <Sally> needs to come with a warning label (or should that be a jester label?!) ... From the Museum holding the painting:
< Nothing further is known of J.R. Attwood. In 1794 this composition was reproduced as an engraving in the 'European Magazine.'> https://museum.wales/collections/on... |
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| Mar-01-24 | | stone free or die: And unlike <Missy>, here's what I have to say for those who consider <CG> an authority: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27c...
<CG> is more like a big beautiful soup - sometimes. Depends on the cook. |
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Mar-01-24
| | Sally Simpson: Hi Stone,
The clue mathematician Atwood left us iΟ the picture. If you look at it you will see three (3) ships of the line, (men of war) and fourteen (14) frigates. Ο (pi) is often expressed as 3.14. You might argue with me but you cannot argue with maths. BTW it will soon be Pi Day (March 14th. 3.14) when mathematicians all over the world go to a restaurant and eat loads of Newton Apple Pie. More info on Pi Day https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_Day |
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| Mar-02-24 | | stone free or die: Ο/4 = 1 - 1/3 + 1/5 - 1/7 + ...
Maybe the easiest formula to remember, but not the most convergent of series. 22/7 is quicker - but it's only good to 3 digits. 3.14159 is how I remember it, approximately. My memory banks can't handle anymore places. But if you switch to base 60 then remembering 6 chunks can get you out to 8 decimal places: 3.82944_60 ~ 3.14159259
Up to 1988 the fastest methods of calculating an approximation to pi were based on the work of the Indian math genius Ramanujan. His work was supplanted by the work of the two Ukrainian-born American Chudnovsky brothers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appro... I didn't see any mention of the Attwood painting's approximation however. |
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Mar-02-24
| | Sally Simpson: I think I have cleared up the Atwood, or to be correct, the Attwood painting. It appears the artist was called J.R. Attwood. That link above that attached our boy George to the painting is their error. Here is the link to J.R. Attwood and the 1776 painting of Milford Haven
https://www.meisterdrucke.uk/fine-a... |
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| Mar-02-24 | | stone free or die: <<Sally> I think I have cleared up the Atwood, or to be correct, the Attwood painting.> Hadn't we already cleared this up back here?
George Atwood (kibitz #51) It used, as reference, the Museum in Wales website that actually has possession of the painting. . |
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Mar-03-24
| | Sally Simpson: Hi stone,
My proof is better and anyway we always need at least two sources to prove or disprove something. George has a moon crater named after him so put up a picture of the moon. Not a full moon because upon seeing it half the crowd here would start barking at it. This lad Eugenios Mihail Antoniadi also has a moon crater named after him. No other chess players spotted but I may have missed one or two others. The wiki list of named moon craters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_... |
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| Mar-03-24 | | stone free or die: <<Sally> My proof is better and anyway we always need at least two sources to prove or disprove something.> You are goofing us all again right? |
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