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| Jul-12-13 | | Gryz: Jan Hein Donner can finally rest in piece. He is not alone anymore. In 1978 Donner lost a game against a chinese player. He was the world's first Grand Master to lose a game to a chinese player. And he didn't just lose like that. He lost in 20 moves, in a blazing attacking game.
Liu Wenzhe vs J H Donner, 1978 Giri and Donner are both Dutch.
According to legend, after he lost, Donner sat silently behind the chessboard for a long time. When he finally stood up, he said: "Now I am the Kiezeritzky of China". |
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| Jul-12-13 | | hedgeh0g: <22...Rxg8 23.exd7+ Kf7 24.dxc8Q Qxc8 and 25.?? is my level, without a comp.
Some people never learn.>
24.d8=Q and Black is simply lost. |
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Jul-12-13
 | | offramp: Donner is the Louis Pasteur of junkie-dom. |
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| Jul-12-13 | | kevin86: White gives up and queen and wins! No bad. |
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| Jul-12-13 | | haydn20: < Pomario: Clearly, Giri was caught out. Ironically, he managed to wend his way through the worst of the complications, only to become demoralized.
12....Bf8 was probably best.
If anything, Black has a small edge at this juncture. > I'm not so sure about this. I liked 12...Ne5, freeing the c8B, e.g., 13. Nxf7 Kxf7 14. Bg5 Be6 and Black looks OK. The rest of your post is right on, IMO. After 15...Qe6 16. Qd3, White has two center Pawns for a Bishop and an initiative against Black's King, but probably a GM could defend the position. BTW 18. f4! was my fave move, blocking the Kside attack, grabbing e5 and releasing the f1R. If someone told me this game was played in 1888, I might have believed them. |
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Jul-12-13
 | | playground player: How come a disaster like this never happened when Morphy played the Philidor? |
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Jul-12-13
 | | Check It Out: I'm dissapointed this pun made it to GOTD and my "Wang Dang Sweet Zugzwang" from this game didn't: Nakamura vs Wang Hao, 2013
Seems like a much better use of Wang Dang, also hinting at the (bad) Ted Nugent song. |
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| Jul-12-13 | | FamilyTree: From wikipedia: "Today, the Philidor Defence is known as a solid, though passive choice for Black" Chess confuses me more and more every day. |
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| Jul-12-13 | | TheFocus: <FamilyTree> <Chess confuses me more and more every day.> That would apply to the majority of posters here. |
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| Jul-12-13 | | JohnBoy: This is a terrible pun. Keep it simple and to the point. http://www.urbandictionary.com/defi... |
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Jul-13-13
| | Check It Out: <TheFocus> Chess is so complex, the more you improve the less you know you know. Or something like that. |
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Jul-13-13
 | | perfidious: <TheFocus: <FamilyTree> <Chess confuses me more and more every day.> That would apply to the majority of posters here.> Not wholly excluding this one. |
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| Jul-13-13 | | Pomario: It turns out that Giri was familiar with the sacrifice, and so allowed Wang Hao to play Bxf7+ as he did not fear it. Unfortunately for Giri, he was not deeply prepared, and after the initial parrying moves of 9....c5 and 10....Qb6, he was out of his "book". The players agree that 13....d5 was inexact (preferring 13....Rg8 instead). Even so, with 15....Qe6 (instead of Ke8?), Giri could have entered an equal endgame. After Wang's 16. Bg5, Giri needed to play the ugly 16....Qc6, when the Queens come off, but White has a healthy advantage, nevertheless. Recap of Round #7 from the Beijing Grand Prix tournament website "Wang, Hao – Giri, Anish 1-0
Wang Hao decided to sacrifice a piece for two pawns early in the opening. Anish Giri knew it was not dangerous as he remembered White had nothing special after c5 and Qb6. Trying to find the way to free his pieces Dutch player chose 13…d5. Even both players agreed 13…Rg8 was better option it was still possible for Black to exchange queens after 15…Qe6 and play the endgame with equal chances. Anish Giri estimated that endgame as worse but during the press conference the opponents didn’t find any obvious advantage for White. Later on, the only chance to fight for a draw was to exchange the queens by playing 16…Qc6, however, it was psychologically hard to propose queen’s exchange after 15.Qe6 was not played. In the game Wang Hao was increasing his initiative move by move and didn’t let his opponent any chance." |
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| Jul-13-13 | | achieve: Good post, <pomario>. |
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| Jul-13-13 | | JohnBoy: Agreed, <achieve>. Nice job <pomario>. But I am still flabbergasted that CG posts a pun without considering on its meaning. |
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| Jul-14-13 | | Mysteriod: I thought we were never going to see romanticism again, but this is just... awesome!
Wang Hao must have huge balls to play a move like 7.Bxf7+.
Well done Hao, beautiful game. |
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| Jul-15-13 | | quickmate: wow wang hao.. giri is like an NN here.. |
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| Jul-17-13 | | Zhbugnoimt: Wang beat Giri as if he were just a little kid! Wow! |
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| Jul-27-13 | | Yerbamate: What about 15...Qe6? Black gives 3 pawns for a minor piece and king at center but white can't develop the rooks and bishop quickly either. |
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| Jul-27-13 | | notyetagm: Wang Hao vs A Giri, 2013 9 ... ?
click for larger viewHow can Black save his d8-queen from the White e6-knight? Or does Black have to resign? 9 ... c7-c5! ▢
click for larger viewA great example of the principle that <FORCING MOVES SHOW YOU WHERE THE PIECES REALLY ARE>. |
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| Jul-27-13 | | notyetagm: Wang Hao vs A Giri, 2013 Game Collection: FORCING MOVES SHOW YOU WHERE PIECES REALLY ARE 9 ... c7-c5! gains time on d4-queen to free trapped d8-queen |
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| Jan-16-15 | | jrofrano: This game was the number seven game of 2013: http://lifezugzwang.com/10-games-fr... |
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| Jul-19-16 | | Alexandro: 13.d5? What a nonsense move! Imho13.Ne5 would be much better to blacks... |
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| Apr-28-21 | | Messiah: Awesome game! Truly Morphy-style! |
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Aug-16-21
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sac: 7.Bxf7+