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Feb-27-09
 | | chessgames.com:  Welcome to the Chessgames Fischerandom Team Game II.In this game, computers will not be allowed. Each side will have two days per half-move. Voting will be open (so that everybody can see all current votes). You now have 10 days to analyze the interesting starting position. The game will start at 6:00pm (USA/Eastern) on March 9th, 2010. Good luck, have fun, and thank you for supporting Chessgames.com. |
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Feb-27-09
 | | al wazir:  Is castling allowed? How do we do it? |
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Feb-27-09
 | | Stonehenge: Thanks <CG>, I like this kind of chess! |
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| Feb-27-09 | | Hesam7: 1.Nf3 & 2.O-O ? |
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| Feb-27-09 | | radu stancu: Sounds good to me. e2 pawn will not be defended after that, so we'll have to see whether to move it or protect it. Maybe d3-e4, with the dark square bishop free to move, and the light square bishop to get out through a2. |
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Feb-27-09
| | Stonehenge: Exotic chess or not, in the end of the day the rules are the same. So we must develop our pieces. The best way to do this, IMHO, is first to decide how we want our pawnstructure to look like. |
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Feb-27-09
 | | Honza Cervenka: Maybe 1.d4 with quick c2-c4 if possible is better as it grabs centre and opens lines for quick development. I think that there is no need to hurry with castling now but I guess that both sides will castle Kingside in this setup quite soon. |
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Feb-27-09
| | Honza Cervenka: In case of 1.d4 d5 it seems to be that 2.c4 has a little drawback due to the fact that 2...dxc4 3.Qxc4 Nb6 gives black a tempo. It can be still playable but I doubt that it is optimal line for white here. |
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Feb-27-09
| | Stonehenge: Maybe 1.c4 is better to give our minor pieces on the Q-side some air. |
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Feb-27-09
| | Honza Cervenka: As <radu stancu> has pointed out, e2 and respectively e7 are potentially weak points in case of quick Nf3(f6) and 0-0. It probably limits black's chances to imitate white in opening after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.0-0 as here 3...0-0 4.Bb4 looks quite unpleasant for black. Extra tempo of white matters here, for example 4...Bb5 5.Bxe7 Bxe2 6.Bxf6 Bxf3 (both Rooks of white are taboo due to 7.Qg5! with immediate win) 7.Rd3 with clear advantage of white. |
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Feb-27-09
| | Stonehenge: As always I'm too lazy too set up the pieces but it looks like both 1.c4 e5 2.d4 exd4 3.Rxd4 and 1.c4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.Rxd4 d5 4.Qd1 are perfectly playable. |
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| Feb-27-09 | | imag: The opening phase will be fun, like reinventing chess theory. |
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| Feb-27-09 | | crawfb5: <al wazir: Is castling allowed? How do we do it?> I believe it is more or less like castling in standard chess except that the King and Rook don't necessarily start at the same positions. 1. The King and Rook cannot have previously moved.
2. No squares the King will pass through or land on can be under enemy control. 3. The squares between the King and Rook must be empty. 4. Kingside castling will result in the King on g1/8 and the Rook on f1/f8. Queenside castling will result the King on c1/c8 and the Rook on d1/d8. That is, the final piece placement will be the same as in standard chess. That's my understanding of how it works in FR. If I'm mistaken, I'm sure someone will correct me. :-) |
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| Feb-27-09 | | crawfb5: Just as a quick look, I think White might play something like 1. d4 (central control, opens diagonals for DSB and Queen) or 1. Nf3 (develops Knight and begins to prepare for castling). Depending on what they actually do play, we might consider the same options (1...d5 or 1...Nf6) for similar reasons. |
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| Feb-27-09 | | crawfb5: My castling summary is more or less correct (I did fail to mention castling isn't legal if you're in check, but you can't do that in standard either). Here's the "official" rules page: Fischerandom Chess Generator |
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| Feb-27-09 | | furrer: I think fast 0-0 castles look natural for both parts. I think that if we get a d4(d5 structure, the problem piece will probably be the white-squared bishop. But perhaps it can be developed trought d7 -> f5 so we can exchange their strong bishop. Any ideas what to play after 1. d4 d5 2. c4? perhaps just dxc4 qxc4 c5? |
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| Feb-27-09 | | Robin01: I have just joined the team. I like d4 here. |
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| Feb-27-09 | | notyetagm: Looks like fun. :-) |
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| Feb-27-09 | | hms123: Hello All. This should be interesting. |
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| Feb-27-09 | | biglo: Yeah theoretically we could castle on our second move |
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Feb-27-09
| | Stonehenge: <Honza> Yes after 1.d4 d5, Bb4 can be annoying for them in some lines. But they can play something like 1.d4 e6 2.Nf3 Ne7 3.0-0 0-0 |
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| Feb-27-09 | | Ragh: Team white might start with a 1.c4 or d4, thereby freeing up the Bishop lines. |
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Feb-27-09
| | al wazir: I think the natural first moves (not necessarily in this order) are something like this: 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c3 3. Nf3 Nf6 (looks familiar so far, doesn't it?) 4. O-O O-O. Except that Chess Viewer Deluxe won't allow castling because it hasn't read the rules of Fisherandom. |
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| Feb-27-09 | | Robin01: The moves c4 and Nf3 also seem playable. I do not like the idea of casting too early. However, it appears kingside castling will probably be the only alternative, if we castle. I believe I will stay with the move d4 for now. I see we could get an opportunity to fianchetto our queen!:) |
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| Feb-27-09 | | MyCatPlaysChess: I am almost thinking that answering 1.d4 with f5 would be a good plan. Followed quickly by Nf6, 0-0 and Kh8... then with our f-pawn placed in front of the knight, we will have a tempo on a kingside attack. |
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