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Marvin Lee vs Brian Wall
"Gone Fishin'" (game of the day Sep-05-2024)
Kansas Open (2007), Bethany Library, Lindsborg, KS USA, rd 1, Jul-14
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. Fishing Pole Variation (C65)  ·  0-1

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Oct-26-07
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  WannaBe: Is that Marvin Lee, or Lee Marvin?!
Oct-26-07  Resignation Trap: <WannaBe> According to Brian Wall , "Marvin Lee looks nothing like the actor Lee Marvin. Marvin Lee is the biggest Asian dude I've ever seen. Imagine Lorne Greene marrying Hopsing and Hoss on the Ponderosa - their offspring will give you some idea of what Marvin Lee looks like."

Brian Wall has a new chess book for children titled "How To Play Chess Like An Animal". It is being printed even as we speak.

Oct-26-07  The Chess Express: A simpler line is 5. d4 exd4 6. Nxd4 Nxd4 7. Qxd4 when white has a nice positional advantage. 6. ... Qh4 can be met with 7. h3 Nge5 (h5?, Nf5) 8. Nc3
Nov-20-07  dougrhess: <Resignation Trap:9.hxg4 hxg4 10.Ng5 g3! 11.fxg3 exd4! 12.Nxf7 dxc3+! is crushing.> Where did fxg3 come from?
Nov-20-07  Resignation Trap: <dougrhess> This was analysis by Brian Wall and I was simply repeating it. If you click on the link I gave, you may be able to eventually find the source. He has a lot of material.
Nov-20-07  goldenbear: Marvin Lee's father is Wellington Lee, an excellent bridge player as well as a former OK chess champion.
Nov-21-07  The Chess Express: chess champions are OK ;)
Nov-21-07  goldenbear: OK as in Oklahoma. I guess you knew that though.
Dec-07-07  DanielBryant: I was at this tournament, and I remember that Lee had only two seconds left when he resigned. Only got 15 moves in in two hours.
Jan-30-08
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: the database has two games with 4...Ng4!?!?!?, which must be the Fishing Pole, and they're both wins for Black! No matter how sound or unsound, it's remarkable that we can still find theoretical novelties on the 4th move of an opening as old as the Ruy.
Jan-30-08  whiteshark: <Resignation Trap> Thx for the <Brian Wall> link! :D
Feb-27-08  whiteshark: Received 39 Brian Wall chesslist emails within the last 14 days...
Apr-11-08  The Chess Express: <AnEnglishman: No matter how sound or unsound, it's remarkable that we can still find theoretical novelties on the 4th move of an opening as old as the Ruy>

Here's another one. 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Ng5 ;)

Feb-22-09  deschner: This is another great game from Brian Wall's Fishing Pole Variation of the Berlin Defense of the Ruy Lopez Chess Opening! (Martin)
Apr-20-11  Firststep2: It seems White's fatal mistake was 12.Bf4? Look at the following article:

http://mundoajedrez.com.pe/fishing-...

Anyway, it's a fantastic game by Brian Wall.

Jun-24-12  King Death: Not your normal Berlin Ruy Lopez for sure, in 50 years of playing through games I never saw 4...Ng4 or heard of the Fishing Pole until this crazy game!
Sep-05-24
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: An update from 2008; the database now has 6 games with 4...Ng4, and Black has won 4 of them.
Sep-05-24  Atking: <An Englishman: Good Evening: An update from 2008; the database now has 6 games with 4...Ng4, and Black has won 4 of them.> I'm surprised as it looks after 5.h3 h5 6.c3 a6 7.BxN dxB 8.d4 a strongly improved exchange variation of the Ruy Lopez.
Sep-05-24  Atking: 9.Bg5 or 9.Na3 seems also more natural.
Sep-05-24
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  Honza Cervenka: The best thing white can do facing this line is just to develop pieces and ignore black Knight on g4.
Sep-05-24  goodevans: <The best thing white can do facing this line is just to develop pieces and ignore black Knight on g4.>

In much the same way as White did in Miles vs Ljubojevic, 1986

... and just as in that game, <h3> at some point is a good idea even though you can't take the N after <...h5>. It kinda preoccupies Black with either maintaining the threat or finding a decent retreat.

An interesting and worthy GOTD.

Sep-05-24
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  LIFE Master AJ: I used to own all of Bill's books on miniatures. (Most everything we owned went into the trash when we were evicted from Chapin's Landing in 2015 - we were homeless for about six months.)

The point? While Bill was best known for his books, people have forgotten that he could play chess too. (Thumbs up on an interesting game. Better this than some GM game where one side won only after many errors ... like a game they showed as G.O.T.D. a few weeks ago.)

Sep-05-24
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  LIFE Master AJ: I just put my glasses on.

Are Bill & Brian the same person?
(My sincere apologies if this is not the case!)

Sep-05-24
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  LIFE Master AJ: I am 66 ... and now I should put on my glasses to read.
Sep-05-24
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  LIFE Master AJ: Several ppl asked recently:
"WHY THIS AVATAR?"

#1.) I have always been a Star Trek fan ... and remember way back when ... it was on TV at night. (As a series.)

#2.) I was deeply saddened by the passing of Leonard Nimoy.

#3.) My old avatar wasn't available.

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