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| Jul-19-11 | | Everett: From the video, Seirawan often misread the position. On at least two occasions he was even critical of Karpov's choice only to realize he was in even worse trouble. |
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| Jul-19-11 | | DrMAL: Thanx for the link, always enjoy watching a video with Karpov in it. It seems Seirawan was already planning 29...Qf5 a mistake, where 29...Qe7 or 29...Qd8 was mandatory. Seirawan's comment that if white played 29.h5 he would have won the game at once is a already comical. But then after 30.h5 easily the best move, it should not have been a surprise to Seirawan, whose egotistical response was very foolish...including after 31.Nh4 when he thinks his queen is trapped. LOL |
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| Jul-19-11 | | newton296: < kingscrusher: Check the video commentary! It is wonderful! > how did they capture the stream of thought commentary? was the commentary dubbed in after the game to make it seem like real time? |
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| Jul-19-11 | | Shams: The voiceover analysis by the players is added later, guys. Seirawan is acting. |
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| Jul-19-11 | | Everett: <newton> yes, must have been dubbed afterwards. <dr.Mal> because of the dubbing afterwards, I wonder if either of the players should be critiqued too harshly, as they no doubt altered their "thoughts" afterwards. In Seirawan's case he seems to be hamming it up a bit, and makes himself look "egotistical," if only to make his loss more entertaining. Or maybe they spoke about their moves off-stage to a reporter during the game only to return to the board to play/respond? |
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| Jul-19-11 | | DrMAL: Not meant to criticize only to laugh. Yes they were both were acting in their voiceover that was too obvious to mention. Karpov is always amazing in his accurate chess simplicity and demeanor. Seirawan's comments such as "Why did I get out of bed?" and "I've seen brighter days" reek of overdone ham LOL. He's a nice guy in person, met him many times. |
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| Jul-19-11 | | MaxxLange: He's an old-school gentleman. I had some minor email business with him in the 90's, when he was very busy with his magazine and financial activities, and he was friendly, courteous, and efficient to me - an unknown patzer |
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| Jul-20-11 | | Everett: <DrMAL: Not meant to criticize only to laugh. <Yes they were both were acting in their voiceover that was too obvious to mention. >Karpov is always amazing in his accurate chess simplicity and demeanor. Seirawan's comments such as "Why did I get out of bed?" and "I've seen brighter days" reek of overdone ham LOL. He's a nice guy in person, met him many times.> My, What a pleasant jibe.
Indeed, it was so obvious it makes your original "egotistical" comment look quite silly. |
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| Jul-20-11 | | DrMAL: <Everett> I IGNORE trolls/idiots, you made the list. |
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| Jul-20-11 | | I play the Fred: <Everett> is an awesome poster, which in this case automatically defines <DrMAL> as the complete opposite. |
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| Jul-20-11 | | DrMAL: Water seeks its own level. IGNORE. |
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Jul-20-11
 | | keypusher: Soon all <DrMAL> will be able to see when he logs on is his own little gold statue. |
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| Jul-20-11 | | I play the Fred: Oh NO! How will I cope??? |
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| Jul-20-11 | | Everett: Well, it seems I struck a nerve. Good thing he put his intent in capitals, me being such an idiot :-) <I play the Fred> thanks for the support, didn't think he would respond that way, but I'm not sure what he expected after being so condescending with the <too obvious to mention> comment, especially since his original post gave no indication of the "acting." Perhaps he didn't realize how he sounded with his posts. |
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| Jul-20-11 | | DrMAL: Happy to be rid of another no-life groupie troll. |
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| Jul-20-11 | | Everett: <keypusher><: Soon all <DrMAL> will be able to see when he logs on is his own little gold statue.> ha ha ha, Are you on his list too? |
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Jul-20-11
| | keypusher: <Everett
ha ha ha, Are you on his list too?>
Not that I know of. But it's only a matter of time... |
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| Jul-21-11 | | Everett: <DrMAL: Happy to be rid of another no-life groupie troll.> Now I imagine he is pretty clear as to how he sounds. |
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Sep-11-11
 | | perfidious: <keypusher: Soon all <DrMAL> will be able to see when he logs on is his own little gold statue.> Ah, but that's all that exists in life, don't you know. Let's see; from this short thread alone, those known to be consigned to perdition on earth are the following poor saps: <Everett>, <Fred> and I, with <keypusher> a possible. That list is burgeoning, folks! |
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| Sep-11-11 | | TheFocus: I'm on it, too. And proud to be!
Fake master,indeed. |
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| Sep-11-11 | | TheFocus: I know, but I was feeling left out.
Of course, I am sure that <DrMalpractice> has 100's on IGNORE. |
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| Sep-12-11 | | micartouse: <But then after 30.h5 easily the best move, it should not have been a surprise to Seirawan, whose egotistical response was very foolish...including after 31.Nh4 when he thinks his queen is trapped. LOL> I didn't interpret the video that way at all. Seirawan correctly identifies the variation leading to loss of a piece and says "losing a piece..." before he says his queen is trapped. So it's pretty clear he knew he wasn't literally losing the queen, and I think him saying "My queen's trapped" is just a quirky choice of words. I think Seirawan is one of the least egotistical grandmasters I can think of from that era; he seems to take his unspoken role of chess ambassadorship seriously. I can't imagine him ever disrespecting Karpov. I think it was RookFile who once said (I'm paraphrasing) Karpov was the kind of player who would give you what you wanted and show you why you didn't really want it. This game makes me think of that - nothing is more unnerving than developing the pieces exactly how you want and then realizing it doesn't really lead anywhere, and you're just defending against threats. |
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Sep-12-11
| | perfidious: micartouse: <...Seirawan, whose egotistical response was very foolish...including after 31.Nh4 when he thinks his queen is trapped. LOL> In my opinion, it's important to consider the source of this particular commentary. <...I think him saying "My queen's trapped" is just a quirky choice of words.> In that situation, I might well say the same thing, meaning it's trapped or I lose heavy material another way; either way, game over. <...I think Seirawan is one of the least egotistical grandmasters I can think of from that era...> Both at and away from the board, I've had my share of encounters with very strong players and I agree; the first time I laid eyes on him, at the National HS championship in Cleveland 1977, he lost a game to one of my teammates, who was a very good player, though of course nowhere near his class. Yasser was reasonable even afterwards-unlike, eg, Walter Browne, who had to win every point of every argument in my experiences with him. |
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| May-21-12 | | HeadCrunch: Watched the game on youtube today - most entertaining. :) |
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| Nov-06-20 | | fisayo123: This was a well played game by both considering it was rapid. Yasser's only mistake was Qxf6 instead of gxf6. The queen re-capture just gives white too many valuable tempi to turn the game in his direction |
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