| Feb-09-13 | | The Last Straw: User: Tibor Weinberger Hmmm... |
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| Feb-23-14 | | wrap99: I remember him from the late 1970s, playing in Betty Roberts'-run events in Los Angeles. I believe he owned a camera store. |
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| Feb-10-15 | | disasterion: Nice story from Andy Sacks about Weinberger at the Herman Steiner Chess Club: "During the period from roughly late 1961 through late the next year, it was not very uncommon ... to hear one of the youngsters excitedly announce to his fellows, "Weinberger is playing The Nazi!" ... Tibor Weinberger, of course, was at that time a Senior Master and strong speed player, who occasionally came to the club either to play in the Rapids-or to have a pre-arranged speed chess session for stakes with "The Nazi." This remarkably self-named young man of about 21 years of age was a sight to behold. Tall, thin, gangly, and awkward, he was the prototype of a nerd, before the word existed. He wore an eye patch, and came carrying his chess equipment in a beat-up bag. He spoke to no one except Weinberger. As for playing strength, he must have been around 1600-but was apparently confident that if the odds were right, he could hold his own against even a strong Master. And the odds he and Weinberger had some time, somewhere, and somehow settled on were unique ... The singular odds (in addition to time) demanded by The Nazi were that he had either a "Ping," a "Pong," or, depending on the time allotment for Weinberger, both. A Ping was a queen's rook turned upside down, and had the powers of both a rook and a knight, depending on his preference in any given position. A Pong was usually slightly stronger, a queen's rook having the powers of both rook and bishop ... As is nearly always the case in such Master-weaker player match-ups, the odds did not actually serve to equalize the vast difference in playing strength and speed chess savvy: Weinberger won nearly all the games every session." Full story here: http://www.chessdryad.com/articles/... |
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| Feb-10-15 | | Tomlinsky: <A Pong was usually slightly stronger, a queen's rook having the powers of both rook and bishop.> That's called a Queen, isn't it? |
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| Feb-10-15 | | disasterion: <Tomlinsky> I believe it is. "Pong" somehow has more resonance... |
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| May-21-15 | | wrap99: I believe I confused this player in my post above with Julius Loftsson -- Loftsson I think had the camera store. |
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| Dec-14-15 | | siggemannen: <disasterion>, interesting story, one can wonder what happened with the Nazi guy |
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| Dec-14-15 | | andrewjsacks: <Tomlinsky> <disasterion> Yes, of course a Pong has the powers of a Queen, but is a "Pong" and looks the part from the outset. I had dinner with the Weinbergers at their house in West L.A. three or four years ago, but did not bring up The Nazi, so I have no idea what happened to him. I was, interestingly, able to sit in their living room on the very chair occupied by Judit Polgar, when she came over to visit them not too long before that. Those strong Hungarian chess players have a network and stick together. |
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| Jan-16-19 | | Pyrandus: Tibor, the Hungarian. |
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| Aug-01-20 | | yiotta: Kibitz, already! (S) Your former tenant. |
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Aug-01-20
 | | OhioChessFan: tibor weinberger
Member since Jan-13-13 ยท Last seen Aug-01-20
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| Aug-01-20 | | yiotta: Tibor Weinberger has more games won by sacrifices than Mikhail Tal (in this database). A really brilliant player in his time. Check some of his games. |
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Aug-01-20
 | | AylerKupp: <andrewjsacks> A belated thank you for the story, I had not stumbled into Weinberger's page before and I didn't know that he had one. I see that you have one also. I have one too, sort of: Aylerkupp / Rybka.. And mine has a picture of me and yours doesn't, at least not yet, but on "my" page most people have failed to identify which one in the picture is me and which one is the "creature". :-) Unfortunately all the events in your story happened before my time since I only arrived in LA in 1963 and did not start frequenting the site on Cashio St. until 1964. But all those names (Weinberger, Pilnick Moscowitz, Rivise) bring back some very fond memories, although I doubt that I played any of them except perhaps by chance during the 10 sec Rapids. And, if I did, I'm certain that I lost all of them since I was a fairly weak player then and I still am. But I had never heard of the Nazi, although someone who shall remain nameless I played many times somewhat fits the description, except for the eye patch. Maybe that was a prop to get even better odds from Weinberger? And whatever happened to your planned books about the Piatigorsky Cup tournaments? I'm still waiting ... To further increase interest in the books, at least the second one, I suggest that you accompany it with a CD featuring my song, and I'll even offer to sing it. My wife has suggested that my voice has gotten better with time but then, as we age, our hearing is seldom what it used to be. On an off-topic site note, I don't know how many people have been to both Mrs. Piatigorsky's house and OJ Simpson's house. To Mrs. Piatigorsky's house we've both been, and my late father-in-law was a good friend of the guy who owned the house before selling it to OJ Simpson. I remember that he had torn down the existing house to build a new one but left one room standing since due to the tax laws at the time the new house would be considered an "addition" and had a lower property tax rate. The "addition" that he built was much larger than the original house and quite nice. He was a wine enthusiast just like I was even at that time, and I still remember the closet that he lined with cedar and had converted into a wine cellar. That and the 24-seat (maybe it was "only" 12, I forget) dining room table that he likely used for entertainment purposes (and therefore a tax deduction) although I sadly was never invited to one of these events. :-( |
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| Aug-02-20 | | andrewjsacks: <AylerKupp> Hey, my friend! Thanks for catching the story, even if a bit late. Right, I was fortunate to be in the Steiner Juniors just before the Student Club got started a year or two later. You glance by that 10-second speed set-up, but yes again, that 10-second bell method preceded 5-minute blitz, but that was still the common way in the early 60s. It is hard to overstate the excitement of us juniors when Weinberger took on that mysterious "Nazi." |
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| Aug-02-20 | | jith1207: <yiotta>: you must have some interesting anecdotes on Tibor Weinberger. |
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| Aug-04-20 | | andrewjsacks: <AylerKupp> As for the book, it is in the works but my co-writer has been dragging his feet, alas. |
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Aug-10-20
| | AylerKupp: <andrewjsacks> Well, light a fire under him! |
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