| Jan-20-05 | | Procopius: Francois Charles Devinck (I believe that that is how is name is spelled) played Morphy by the odd game and was also depicted as one of the witnesses of the St. Amant-Staunton match; as a matter of fact he was the last surviving chess player depicted there. Sergeant notes that "[he was] a keen chess player, [and was said to have] ranked Deschapelles [and some other player I forget] higher than Morphy!" Devinck was also a well-known chocolate-maker for this time. :) |
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| Jan-20-05 | | SBC: Althought his name was Francois, Devink was a Dutchman. I believe his last name, however, is of Belgium origin (Belgium having been part of the Netherlands, I think, until 1830). He was an old man when he met Morphy and did feel that Deschapelles and Bourdonnais were both better players... but that might say more about his abilitly to judge or about his good-old-days mentality, than about any objective truth. |
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| Jan-21-05 | | SBC: <Devink was a Dutchman> ...and so was Francois Devinck.
French Fries have a French first name, but they are also of Belgian origin. |
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| Mar-18-06 | | Calli: <SBC> Was he really the chocolate maker? Web seaches seem to mention François-Jules Devinck as the choco man. http://www.theworldwidegourmet.com/... |
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| Mar-18-06 | | SBC: <Calli>
I don't know. <Procopius> says he was. And Philip Sergeant said he was. Maybe François-Jules Devinck was his son in a family business? Curiously, I just did a quick search on Devinck and found this mentioned at Chessville.com under "trivia" ( http://www.chessville.com/misc/Hist... ) "The earliest surviving game score for a consultation game dates back to 1837, when M Chamouillet, FJ Devinck & Leerivain played against Bonvil, Calviard and PC Saint-Amant in 3 games. Chamouillet's team played with the White pieces in all 3 games, while Bonvil's team gave the odds of playing without a pawn on f7. Chamouillet's team won the match 2.5 to 0.5." The spelling of Lecrivain above suggests the text was ocr'd from some book. (and the "c" was read a "e"). Notice the "FJ Devinck." Maybe Sergeant got his name wrong, or maybe his name is François-Jules Charles Devinck? What do you think?
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| Mar-18-06 | | Calli: Don't know. Precious little on the net about it. 1837 would be too early for a son. Picture of a Devinck here http://www.endgame.nl/bad1870.htm
But which one? |
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| Mar-18-06 | | SBC: <Calli>
<1837 would be too early for a son.> Except the date mentioned on the link you supplied was 1850. |
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| Mar-18-06 | | Calli: Was thinking that FJD in the 1837 consultation game too young if FCD is the father, but maybe thats reversed. Can't really establish FCD exists so far. Will have a look at some chess databases.... |
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| Mar-18-06 | | Calli: Found the 1843 picture
http://www.ballo.de/Paris_1843_3.htm
but no luck otherwise. |
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| Mar-19-06 | | SBC: <Calli>
<Found the 1843 picture> Why were you looking for a picture of Staunton-St.Amant?? |
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| Mar-19-06 | | Calli: Devinck was present. |
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| Mar-19-06 | | SBC: <Calli>
Which one is he??
Staunton, I know, is the one with the little rooks embroidered on his shirt. |
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| Mar-19-06 | | Calli: I don't know. Really was hoping for some text along with the picture. |
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Sep-07-10
 | | GrahamClayton: <Procopius>Devinck was also a well-known chocolate-maker for this time. <Procopius>,
Devinck (1806-1883) was also President of the Paris Chamber of Commerce. |
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| Apr-26-16 | | TheFocus: "To err is human. To forgive Devinck." |
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| Dec-06-20 | | Jean Defuse: ...
The JWD have 30 games and 1 result played by Francois Charles Devinck and <3 game and 1 result played by A. Devinck>, namely the following: F Devinck vs Morphy, 1858 (1859) F Devinck vs Morphy, 1858 F Devinck vs Morphy, 1858 Jay E Whitehead was one of the leading Morphy experts, why he specify <A.> Devinck? I'm found in the old books only <Mr.>, but Max Lange give in his 1881 book 'Paul Morphy - Skizze aus der Schachwelt' also <A.> Devinck... ... |
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