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Mar-04-07 | | SirBruce: <antarney>
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...
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May-19-07 | | Themofro: <Lostemperor> He was one of the early greats of the 19th century that no one really remembers, on http://db.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Play... he's ranked as world number one for 15 months. |
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May-19-07 | | SBC: <Jerry Spinrad has some thoughts on Lasa - http://www.chesscafe.com/spinrad/sp... > < However, since Staunton writes in the Chess Player’s Chronicle that he had the pleasure of making the personal acquaintance of von der Lasa in their 1853 encounter, I still do not believe that the two played in 1844.> Raymond Keene mentioned that Ken Whyld informed him that the 1844 meeting was incorrect, that Staunton wasn't in Berlin in 1844 . But, according to a letter (published here by WilhelmThe2nd, but can be read here: http://sbchess.sinfree.net/LasaStau...) from v.d Lasa to The City of London Chess Magazine and published in the January 1875 issue, concerning Staunton: "Having been during more than thirty years on friendly terms with the deceased [Staunton, who died in 1874]... Thirty years prior to 1874 is, of course, 1844.
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Aug-13-07
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: If only there was some way to guess how good players like von der Lasa would be today. I feel that if you traveled back in time, snatched v.d.L, and brought him to the present, he would be completely flummoxed playing against Queen Pawn openings, the Pirc, Alekhine, and Caro-Kann. At least until he caught up with theory. He would also have to learn how to cope with the pawn structures seen most often in today's chess (d5 & e4 vs. d6 & e5 from the Ruy, Pirc, and KID, for example). But what if the good Baron had been born in 1985? He would have grown up with today's theory and strategy, as well as worked with computers. I think he would rank among the world's best. I know many programs tend to rate the 19th Century players lower than today's, but I believe that the algorithms don't consider the lack of quality opponents and state of endgame theory back them. Endgame theory back then was almost non-existent, which is why the endings from the mid-19h Century include so many errors. In any case, it's a pity there is no way to find out. |
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Oct-17-07 | | MUNGOMYERS: this guy can play plenty of wins against the great adolf anderssen and the great howard staunton big respect |
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Oct-17-07
 | | keypusher: A Spinrad article about von der Lasa
http://www.chesscafe.com/text/spinr...
(The one SBC linked to was about Bilguer, though it had a lot of interesting information about his friend and co-star.) |
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Dec-27-07 | | myschkin: His fabulous chessbook collection (mentioned in the cg.com biography above) seems to be intact until these days: .... Es stellt deshalb ein ganz außerordentliches Verdienst dar, daß Herr Professor Sierpowski und Frau Maria Luczak von der <Bibliotheka Kórnika in Kornik bei Poznan (Posen)> in Polen vom 16. bis 18. September 2002 eine internationale Veranstaltung von Schachhistorikern veranstalteten. Mit der Veranstaltung wurde einem größeren Publikum die <bedeutende Schachbuchsammlung von der Lasas>, die bereits seit 1990 von Schachforschern besucht und genutzt werden konnte, zugänglich gemacht. .... (erschienen in Schach Nr. 11/2002) |
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Sep-13-08 | | JonathanJ: <chessgames.com> his complete name is "Baron Tassilo von Heydebrand und der Lasa". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tassil... |
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Oct-17-08 | | brankat: From the good Baron's Biography:
<During his time as a diplomat he collected a chess library of over 2000 items which was reported to still be intact in Poland in 1957.> Wouldn't mind laying hands on that treasure ;-)
R.I.P. Master und der Lasa. |
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Oct-17-10 | | Dredge Rivers: This is the short version of his name! |
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Apr-29-12 | | TheTamale: His friends just called him Tass. |
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May-18-13 | | The17thPawn: Its a shame he never played Morphy. Would have produced some interesting chess. |
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Feb-17-16 | | zanzibar: <Q1 - How strong a player was he?> http://www.edochess.ca/players/p10....
<Q2 - Longest name on <CG>?> Flight Engineer and Science Officer Greg Chamitoff |
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Jul-25-17 | | siggemannen: Not quite in Gambolputty's league :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDP... |
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Jul-25-17 | | sudoplatov: Lionel Adalbert Bagration Felix Kieseritzky (39) Baron Tassilo von Heydebrand und der Lasa (35)
If my count be correct. But Felix has more spaces in his name than Lasa. |
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Jul-25-17
 | | offramp: <sudoplatov: Lionel Adalbert Bagration Felix Kieseritzky (39)
Baron Tassilo von Heydebrand und der Lasa (35)
If my count be correct. But Felix has more spaces in his name than Lasa.> Wrong. Baron is his title, not his name. |
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Mar-31-18 | | Jean Defuse: ...
"Schach ist in seinem Geist ein Spiel, in seiner Form eine Kunst und in seiner Ausführung eine Wissenschaft." Source: Handbuch des Schachspiels (Der Bilguer). ...
Lasa's biography by Michael Negele: https://www.schachbund.de/news/der-... (German) & a great picture: https://www.kwabc.org/files/kwabc/n... ...
[Event "Match"]
[Site "Vienna"]
[Date "1846.??.??"]
[White "Von Jenay, Eduard"]
[Black "Von Heydebrand und der Lasa, Tassilo"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B01"]
[PlyCount "30"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Nf6 3. c4 c6 4. dxc6 Nxc6 5. Nf3 e5 6. d3 Bf5 7. Bg5 Qb6 8.
Bxf6 gxf6 9. Qb3 Bb4+ 10. Nbd2 O-O-O 11. Be2 Rhg8 12. g3 e4 13. dxe4 Nd4 14.
Nxd4 Bxd2+ 15. Kxd2 Qxd4+ 0-1
Source: JWD
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Oct-17-19 | | Pyrandus: Eduard von JENAY was a Baron Hungarian. |
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Oct-17-20
 | | Messiah: Happy birthday! |
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Apr-17-21
 | | fredthebear: After translating to English (pop-up window), some personal and world of chess details in this biography are appreciable: https://www.deutsche-biographie.de/... |
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Apr-18-21
 | | MissScarlett: Just for the record, I didn't shorten the name. I didn't dare. |
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Jan-23-22 | | erniecohen: Chessmetrics reckons von der Lasa world #1 for 15 months, and in the top 2 for 4 years. |
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Oct-18-22 | | BarakSaltz: Many of his games played in Scandinavia are not available on online historical chess game databases, but are available via Google Books. More difficult to research than his Scandinavian games would be whether he recorded games he played when in Brazil. |
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Jan-24-23 | | generror: One of the unsung greats. Not only because he was one of the strongest players of his time (Edochess ranks him #1 for 1847 and 1848, and in the top 10 from 1839-1856, and similarly ChessMetrics), but also because of his interest in the history of chess (documenting the early Berlin "Pleiades" scene with his <Berliner Schach-Erinnerungen>, with translations of Greco and Lucena), and of course for editing and publishing the massive <Handbuch des Schachspiels>, pretty much the 19th century's <ECO>. Pity he pretty much retired from our beautiful game in the 1850s! |
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May-11-23
 | | jnpope:
<The name of the gentleman correctly written is T. von Heydebrand und der Lasa. The origin of the name or rather the method of forming it is this. In Silesia, the birth place of our author, the ancient custom of dropping the family name and adopting the "feudal name" (<nom de fief>) is still retained. The name as above given, therefore, represents two estates, not the family name of the possessors of either estate. These two <fiefs> or feudal estates were called, one Heydebrand and the other Die Lasa, the <die> being analogous to <the>. The feudal proprietor or master of the first called himself Herr (Lord or Seignor) von (of) Heydebrand, and the proprietor of the second called himself Herr von der (of the) Lasa. When, by intermarriage and death, the representative of both these feudal states came to be one and the same man, he—not choosing that one of these titles, to which some historical recollections might have attached should be sunk in oblivion—called himself the Herr von Heydebrand und (and) der Lasa, (the <von>, by German grammar, being understood before <der Lasa>.) It will thus be seen that our author has two distinct names, as it were, neither of which can be used as a baptismal or christian name, as many writers do use the first, calling him Heydebrand von der Lasa. Having two distinct names, it is proper, however, to designate him by either one of them, but in effecting the separation, we must be careful lest we fall into other errors. He can be called T. von Heydebrand or T. von der Lasa, or dropping the initial of the christian name (which we believe is Theodore,) we can say—von Heydebrand or—von der Lasa the latter being the name by which he is commonly known, and the one he makes use of on the title page of the "Handbuch." The <von> is frequently omitted by writers and he is called der Lasa. This is incorrect and according to German grammar, impossible, as the article <der> can not be used unless preceded by the preposition <von>. In French our author writes his name <T. de Heydebrand et de la Lasa>, and if we insist upon anglicizing it, we ought to call him Mr. T. Heydebrand-Lasa, just as Lord Byron, when properly called is styled George Noel-Byron.>
Source: Hazeltine Scrapbook (Boston <Saturday Evening Gazette>), v60, pp75-76 (pdf pp85-86). |
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