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| Oct-01-12 | | Olavi: OK it's probably in his book on the 1914 St. Petersburg tournament, in his comments on Rubinstein-Alekhine. He states that Wyvill used the stratagem Sb8-c6-a5, Ba6, Rc8 against the pawns in several games in London 1851. I think that should be Williams. |
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Oct-02-12
 | | keypusher: <Olavi: OK it's probably in his book on the 1914 St. Petersburg tournament, in his comments on Rubinstein-Alekhine. He states that Wyvill used the stratagem Sb8-c6-a5, Ba6, Rc8 against the pawns in several games in London 1851. I think that should be Williams.> I have that one, I'll check when I get a chance. |
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| Oct-18-12 | | Nosnibor: Did you know that Wyvill beat the great Howard Staunton? It was a game at odds but despite that Wyvill showed that he was a force to be reckoned with.This game was played in 1854 three years after he had finished second in the 1851 London International and two places above Staunton. White:Wyvill Black:Staunton (Remove Black`s KBPawn) 1e4 Nc6 2d4 e5 3Bb5 exd4 4Bxc6 dxc6 5Qh5+ Kd7 6Nf3 Qe8 7Ne5+ Ke7 8Qh4+ Nf6 9Bg5 Be6 100-0 h6 11f4 Rg8 12Bxf6+ gxf6 13f5 Bf7 14Ng4 Rg5 15Nxf6! Kxf6 16Nd2 Bh5 17e5+ Kg7 18e6 Rg4 19Qf2 Bd6 20Rad1 Rd8 21Ne4 Bf4 22h3 Be3 23f6+ Kh8 24Rxe3 dxe3 25Qxe3 Rg6 26f7 Qxe6 27Qc3+ Kh7 28f8=Q(f8=N+ would be showboating!not Wyvill`s style)28...Rxf8 29Rxf8 Rxg2+ 30Kxg2 Qxe4+ 31Kg1 Qg6+ 32Kf1 Black Resigns 1-0 |
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| Oct-18-12 | | thomastonk: <Nosnibor> The game you present is part of a series of at least three games at pawn and move between Wyvill and Staunton. Two of them were published in the CPC 1854, p 69-71 (Wyvill's win and a win for Staunton in 21). A third game ended drawn, though Wyvill was ahead rook and pawn with absolutely no compensation. The CPC remarks, that the games "are much below the mark of the two combatants". |
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| Nov-06-12 | | Nosnibor: <thomastonk> Staunton was in the habit of making such statements in the Chess Players Chronicle when his own personal result was not what he had hoped for.Here is another game played by Wyvill shortly after the opening of the new venue at St.James Street of the St. George`s Chess Club.It is a game between the two strongest Members of Parliament at the time and there may not be another instance of this in the DB! Offhand game played February 1854 White:Evelyn Black: Wyvill Sicilian Defence 1e4 c5 2d4 cxd4 3Nf3 Nc6 4Nxd4 f5 5exf5 Nxd4 6Qh5+ g6 7fxg6 Bg7 8gxh7+ Kf8 9hxg8=Q+ Kxg8 10Bc4+ e6 11Qd1 b5 12c3 bxc4 13cxd4 Bb7 14f3 Qh4+ 15Ke2 Bxd4 16Qe1 Qf6 17Nc3 Rf8?(Now Rh3 would have prevented Whites last move and would have probably won)18Qg3+ Kf7 19Bg5 Qf5 20Rhd1 Rfg8 21h4 e5 22Nb5 and White won. |
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| Nov-07-12 | | thomastonk: <Nosnibor> Thank you very much for your message. I agree that the statement would match Staunton's habit. But, is it exactly known when he handed over the CPC? |
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| Nov-20-12 | | Nosnibor: <thomastonk> Staunton handed over the CPC in 1854 but continued to run a column in the "Illestrated London News". |
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| Nov-20-12 | | thomastonk: <Nosnibor> Thank you again. I know that this year is mentioned in 'The Oxford Companion to Chess' by Hooper & Whyld, and by others like Sunnucks. However, based on Murray's 'A History of Chess', Staunton edited the CPC from 1841 to 1852. So, I think the matter can only be decided by a primary source. Do you know such a source? |
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| Nov-20-12 | | Nosnibor: <thomastonk> I can tell you that H.J.R.Murray`s book is unfortunately full of inaccuracies and that in 1854 Staunton`s friend R.B Brien took over until 1856.I know this for a fact because I personally sighted a copy of the CPC in 1959 at the time of the change of editors. |
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| Nov-21-12 | | thomastonk: <Nosnibor> All volumes of the CPC are available at Google books, and so I could solve the issue easily. Staunton issued 13 volumes from 1841 to 1852, a "first series". Then he decided to change the direction of the magazine "to a new and more perfect series" as he wrote under the title "The Chess player's Chronicle - New Series" in the first issue of 1853. This "new series" starts with volume 1 again. So, those authors who named 1852 as the year of change in the editorship probably assumed wrongly that the begin of the new series was due to a change of the editor. However, this change was reported to the readers in the middle of 1854, exactly on page 225. So, back to our starting point: the comments in CPC 1854, p69-71 are hence made by Staunton. |
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Sep-02-13
 | | offramp: He was known to his dormitory friends as Marmalade Winegum.
His catchphrase, in the evil hours at the cottages of foggy old London Town was, "Teeth in our out?" Ghastly! |
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| Dec-22-15 | | PhilFeeley: I can see a Holiday Present clue using this guy through the cartoon dog. |
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Dec-22-15
 | | Domdaniel: "Uncle Duke? Wyvill you be remembered 200 years after your birth?" "Good looks, dear boy. And perhaps the jolly old wood-pushing." |
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| Dec-22-18 | | Castleinthesky: What do you get when you combine nobility with marmalade? A marmaduke! |
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Dec-22-18
 | | Check It Out: Marmaduke Wyvil was the son of Marmaduke Wyvil, mp of York. I guess that makes him the lesser of two Wyvils. |
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| Dec-22-18 | | JimNorCal: Someone point <Check It Out> towards the Submit A Pun page. That one's a sure winner! |
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| Dec-22-22 | | Cibator: I seem to remember reading once that he acted as stakeholder for an important chess match, but I can't now remember which one. In the course of trying to find out, however, I stumbled across the extraordinary fact that he once proposed marriage to Florence Nightingale! Even at age 20, though (he was 25), she knew her own mind well enough to turn him down. |
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Dec-22-22
 | | FSR: The greatest chessplayer named Marmaduke ever. |
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| Dec-22-22 | | stone free or die: Here is a list of the four suitors (and dates) of Florence Nightingale: https://twitter.com/florenceslondon... I believe it proposes a photograph of our player - can somebody possibly verify? It's unattributed. |
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Dec-22-22
 | | MissScarlett: One guess as to what his son was called. |
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| Dec-22-22 | | Cibator: That photo is in the collection at the Florence Nightingale Museum in London, but according to the Streatham and Brixton Chess Blog they don't have any details about it or its origins: https://streathambrixtonchess.blogs... The name "F Joubert" is at bottom left of the picture - he was a well-known image-maker of the time in all kinds of media, including photography. As for the subject of the photo: those extravagant "wings" of hair and the mutton-chops certainly suggest MW, but a much older one than in the picture at the top of this page. |
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| Dec-23-22 | | stone free or die: <<cibator> As for the subject of the photo: those extravagant "wings" of hair and the mutton-chops certainly suggest MW, but a much older one than in the picture at the top of this page.> I had a similar impression.
Nice catch on "Joubert", I still wonder about the photograph source (as, I suppose, does the S&B CC!). Thanks. |
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| Dec-23-22 | | stone free or die: PS- the photo is cropped in the twitter link I gave, so the Joubert identifier is missing. |
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Apr-24-23
| | MissScarlett: Birmingham Gazette, December 23rd 1954, p.1:
<SO CULTURED, BUT JUST TALK, EVERYBODY THOUGHT --Marmaduke, the hired hand, left £114,000
by Jack Lucas
Cheltenham
The factory worker named Marmaduke loved to have his hands manicured. But his beautiful fingers handled - a greasy machine. He liked to talk about his travels. But the only travelling he was seen to do was the 500-yard walk home. He was accustomed, he said, to expensive cigarettes, but smoked cheap ones. He liked wine, but drank beer. So everybody called him "The Duke."
That was Marmaduke Frederick Wyvill, semi-skilled factory hand. At the Rotol works at Garronfield near here, he was a mystery. He used to have money...he never really had money...everybody told a different story. They all guessed. Nobody really knew. Thirteen months ago he died in a public house as he was buying a pint. And yesterday the strange story of Marmaduke Wyvill took the strangest twist of all. In his will he left £114,000.
The story of Marmaduke Wyvill and his fortune, went back to 1912, when he was born in a Yorkshire mansion and brought up by his grandfather, an M.P. Young Marmaduke lived a life of ease. He went to Stowe public school, fell ill and stayed a year in America to recuperate. His grandfather died, leaving the family fortune in trust for him until he was 21. Then Marmaduke married, and left the estate to live in Staffordshire. There, he lived the life of a gentleman. There was a divorce. He married again. There was another divorce. He married a third time, and went to live in Garronfield. And that was where times changed for Marmaduke Wyvill. He found he must go to work. His money was all tied up in the estate. He worked for the Coal Board, then in the Rotol factory. With overtime he earned £10 a week. He tried to maintain some of his costly tastes...lived in a detached house, wore good suits. But at work he had to put on overalls and man a capstan. In the evenings he joined other workers at the Pheasant. There it was that he dropped dead, aged 41. His workmates thought that was the end of the Marmaduke Wyvill story, But in the Pheasant last night they were talking again of the factory hand they called "The Duke."> |
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Apr-24-23
| | MissScarlett: Per Wikipedia: <Through his 1845 marriage to Laura, daughter of Sir Charles Ibbetson, Bart., he came into possession of Denton Hall.> Newspaper notices indicate the wedding took place on April 8th 1845 at St. Mary's, Marylebone. The couple seem to have enjoyed an extended honeymoon in Italy, because there are games in Rome between Wyvill and Dubois dated 1845 and 1846. The <Morning Herald> of May 12th 1846, p.8: <BIRTHS.
At Rome, on the 27th of April, the lady of Marmaduke Wyvill, Esq., jun., of a daughter, still-born.> The 1851 census finds Marmaduke and Laura at 13 Chester St, Belgravia, with their two children, Marmaduke and Laura, and six servants. |
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