|
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·
Later Kibitzing> |
Mar-13-23
 | | perfidious: After spotting the obvious 15.Bxg5, my first thought was that Black could sidestep, as others have noted, with 15....Qc7, when I felt White might have an advantage, but hardly a win. Strange POTD for any day, particularly a Monday. |
|
| Mar-13-23 | | EasilyConfused: Does Nxg5+ lead to a winning attack? |
|
Mar-13-23
 | | lil dw: A good example of not reacting automatically to a capture. Black should stop, think, and hopefully see Ne5+ coming. Loss of a pawn is better than losing the game. And after Bxg5 the engine scores the position as equal 0.0. |
|
Mar-13-23
 | | takebackok: After 15...fxg5?? its good grief over & out. |
|
| Mar-13-23 | | Honey Blend: Indeed 15. ♗xg5 ♕c7 is the best response. This stops ♗f4 and after 16. ♗e3 ♘f5 White has no time to defend c3, e.g. 17. ♖c1 ♘xe3 18. fxe3 ♕g3+ 19. ♔f1 ♗a3:
click for larger viewWhite has to give up the exchange after something like 20. ♖a1 ♗b2. Best that White has is 17. 0-0 ♕xc3 18. ♖c1 ♘xe3 where after a series of exchanges, Black still has the bishop pair e.g. 19. ♖xc3 ♘xd1 20. ♖xd1 etc. |
|
Mar-13-23
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Weird but true--until 13...Kf7, the CG computer rates Black's position as slightly superior, and recommends 13...Nf5 as a better move. |
|
| Mar-13-23 | | agb2002: The pawn on f6 is overburdened with the defense of e5 and g5. Therefore, 15.Bxg5 wins a pawn (15... fxg5 16.Ne5+ and 17.Nxd7). |
|
| Mar-13-23 | | agb2002: Bad start of the week. I should have seen immediately 15... Qc7. |
|
Mar-13-23
 | | Check It Out: I kept looking at a king side step, also should have seen Qc7. Blacks rating is 1500-1600, so a little understandable not seeing the fork, but... |
|
| Mar-13-23 | | saturn2: I like spoiled mondays |
|
| Mar-13-23 | | mel gibson: That's too easy - LOL |
|
| Mar-13-23 | | cocker: Black may be in the Higher League, but at 1594 she is/was even weaker than me. |
|
| Mar-13-23 | | Jegar Sahadutha: Loquacious sea robin flails ungraciously - to no avail. When will the unscrupulous ones ever learn? Hast thou not read the Book of Declamations? Learn the way of the sailor; live it well. Then may the blind begin see. |
|
| Mar-13-23 | | TheaN: White's best attempt is <15.Bxg5!? => grabbing a pawn and unbalancing the position. Black erred with 15....fxg5? 16.Ne5+ +-, could have leveled with 15....Qc7! removing the fork and hitting c3. Whilst 0, the position's unbalanced and I give White the practical edge, but that's all there is to it. |
|
| Mar-13-23 | | Brenin: That's interesting. OTB I would have seen 15 Bxg5, but realising that Black can (indeed must) decline the sacrifice, I would then have looked carefully for good Black responses, finding 15 ... Qc7 (it's not hard, once you think to look). I would have gone ahead with Bxg5 anyway since this line converts what had been a slight Black advantage (as <An Englishman> has noted) into a slight White advantage after Black regains the lost P. However, as it was a Monday POTD I simply took the "free" P and retired to bed. I should not underestimate Monday POTDs. |
|
| Mar-13-23 | | Damenlaeuferbauer: Of course Anna Afonasieva played 15.Bxg5!, intending 15.-,fxg5? 16.Ne5+, which won black's queen and the game, but Lana Dryaeva could have played 15.-,Qc7!, as <David H. Levin>, <jrredfield>, <perfidious> and others pointed out. Up to 13.b4, Lana Dryaeva played the opening very well; after 13.-,Nf5!? or 13-,Rc8!?, black would have had an obvious advantage. After 15.-,Qc7!, all three results are still possible: I am sure, every human player under 2600 Elo would lose this position against Stockfish 14/15. A strange Monday puzzle! |
|
| Mar-13-23 | | FM David H. Levin: <EasilyConfused: Does Nxg5+ lead to a winning attack?> After 15. Nxg5+ fxg5 16. Bxg5, Black's king might be considered "exposed." However, White doesn't have an immediate tactical follow-up, a space advantage on the kingside, or a preponderance of pieces in that sector. So, I don't think White has sufficient compensation. |
|
Mar-13-23
 | | benveniste: I spent minutes looking for something better than ♗xg5 before giving up. I'll never have that time back. |
|
| Mar-13-23 | | nalinw: A slightly more sensible avatar of ChrisOwen? Is he still around - I have him on ignore ..... Jegar Sahadutha: Loquacious sea robin flails ungraciously - to no avail. When will the unscrupulous ones ever learn? Hast thou not read the Book of Declamations? Learn the way of the sailor; live it well. Then may the blind begin see. |
|
Mar-13-23
 | | chrisowen: Cake its z v boneparte wright marquis v held ruffle ja its Bxg5 a cog mug amalgamate key axiom a good quod adrift naf back bum c Bxg5 choose; |
|
| Mar-13-23 | | johnnydeep: I saw the bishop sac of course, resulting in a fork of the black King and Queen if black takes it. But if black fails to oblige, it's pretty much even. Not a good puzzle. |
|
| Mar-13-23 | | Refused: Saw 15.Bxg5 fxg5?? 16.Ne5+
And I probably would have grabbed the pawn on g5 in a practical game. Basically claiming eliminating a pawn close to the king and taking the g5-g4 pushes out of the position would've been my rational. However I didn't see a clear cut win, after some normal black move like 15...Qc7. I would assume this is somewhat betterish for white, but it's far from clearly winning. |
|
| Mar-13-23 | | stacase: <Check It Out: I kept looking at a king side step, also should have seen Qc7.
Blacks rating is 1500-1600, so a little understandable not seeing the fork, but...> I had a 1400+ elo in the early '90s and haven't played much since and it took me about a minute of thrashing around before I saw it, but over the board, were I Black, I would have soldiered on without the Pawn as you never can tell when your opponent who is about as good as you is going to step in it. |
|
| Mar-13-23 | | AlicesKnight: Bxg5 wins ... a pawn ... er ... |
|
Mar-13-23
 | | scormus: This is ..... strange :
|
|
 |
|
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·
Later Kibitzing> |
Kibitzing
sac: 15.Bxg5
icon.