Jul-28-21 | | Ulhumbrus: The purpose of 13 Ne2 may be to evade the pawn sacrifice 13...b4 followed by 14...b3. However every white move that is passive may make the advance...d5 easier for Black. One justification for 13 Nd5 is that it comes with tempo and on 13..Nc6 14 Nxe7+ gains the bishop pair. Giri indicated that the Marshall countergambit type sacrifice 14...d5 was at least satisfactory for Black. 21 Bxf4 concedes the bishop pair. Instead of this 21 Ne4 obstructs Black's queen's bishop 23 g3 disturbs the king side pawns. One alternative indicated by the commentators was 23 Qh5. Instead of 26 Qh3 the computer indicated the resource 26 c4 b4 27 Bb3. The point of this is that on 27...f5 28 Ba4 the black queen can't stay on the long diagonal and so has to release the pin on White's knight. The computer evaluations suggest that Carlsen eventually outplayed Bacrot from a position which might have been drawn with best play. |
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Jul-28-21 | | beenthere240: Well the starting position at chess is probably a draw given optimal play by both sides. |
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Jul-29-21 | | beenthere240: Wait a minute! Isn?t the point of chess for one side to outplay the other??? |
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Jul-29-21
 | | offramp: If Bacrot had taken the ♗ on c3, with 36.bxc3,
 click for larger viewBlack would have won the white queen back: Bd3+ Kf2 Re2+, that would give an easy won ♗+♙ ending.
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Jul-29-21 | | Ulhumbrus: At least one commentator - it may have been Giri - suggested that he was surprised that White could hold the ending at all. This, amongst other things, suggests that the ending may be very difficult for White to defend. Giri said that Black would have a win if he could find a safe and stable square for his queen's bishop. One combination indicated by Giri as well as the computer occurs if instead of 37 Qc5 White takes the b5 pawn and so both removes his queen from the g1-a7 diagonal ( thereby conceding it to Black's king's bishop) and places the queen on the more exposed b file, both of which things are ingredients in the following combination: 37 Qxb5? Bh3+ 38 Kf2 Bd4+ 39 Kf3 Re3+ (forcing the king to walk into a discovered check) 40 Kf2 Rb3+ winning. White has to avoid this combination after 37 Qc5 Bxb2 as well: 38 Qxb5? Bh3+ 39 Kf2 Bd4+ 40 Kf3 Re3+ 41 Kf2 Rb3+ winning After 39 Qd5 Rd8 the white queen can't keep chasing the rook and the bishop threatens a discovery. This suggests 39 Qd6 so that after 39...Rd8 the queen can evade the threatened discovered check by 40 Qb6 whilst continuing to chase the rook and the computer may have suggested this move. After 44 f5 Giri indicated that one of the ways for Black to proceed was to play to make White disgusted with his position by 44...g5. Carlsen did play this move whereupon Shankland resigned. Perhaps Bacrot was indeed fed up with his position as Giri suggested. |
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Jul-29-21 | | Ulhumbrus: At least one commentator - it may have been Giri - suggested that he was surprised that White could hold the ending at all. This, amongst other things, suggests that the ending may be very difficult for White to defend. Giri said that Black would have a win if he could find a safe and stable square for his queen's bishop. One combination indicated by Giri as well as the computer occurs if instead of 37 Qc5 White takes the b5 pawn and so both removes his queen from the g1-a7 diagonal ( thereby conceding it to Black's king's bishop) and places the queen on the more exposed b file, both of which things are ingredients in the following combination: 37 Qxb5? Bh3+ 38 Kf2 Bd4+ 39 Kf3 Re3+ (forcing the king to walk into a discovered check) 40 Kf2 Rb3+ winning. White has to avoid this combination after 37 Qc5 Bxb2 as well: 38 Qxb5? Bh3+ 39 Kf2 Bd4+ 40 Kf3 Re3+ 41 Kf2 Rb3+ winning After 39 Qd5 Rd8 the white queen can't keep chasing the rook and the bishop threatens a discovery. This suggests 39 Qd6 so that after 39...Rd8 the queen can evade the threatened discovered check by 40 Qb6 whilst continuing to chase the rook and the computer may have suggested this move. After 44 f5 Giri indicated that one of the ways for Black to proceed was to play to make White disgusted with his position by 44...g5. Carlsen did play this move whereupon Bacrot resigned. Perhaps Bacrot was indeed fed up with his position as Giri suggested. |
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Jul-29-21
 | | An Englishman: Good Morning: Fascinating--Carlsen sometimes seems unhappy unless and until he can sacrifice a pawn. Here Bacrot uses the Anti-Marshall Variation, only to see Black play a sort of delayed Marshall Gambit on move 14. Carlsen showed more courage than you might realize, because the CG database has 4 games with 12...c5 and they all end in White victories. Three of those games saw 13.Ne2, and yes, all ended in victory for White. 14...d5 takes us out of the database. Black's pressure gets annoying quickly. White must have hated playing 21.Bxf4, but 21.f3 and 21.Ne4 both allow ...Nxd3, recapturing the pawn and threatening the Re1. Perhaps 22.Ne4 was too clever, and dull tedious defense with 22.Bb1 *might* have improved, but the resultant position does not look visually appealing to me, either. |
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Jul-30-21 | | Saniyat24: 14...d5 is a novelty...! source: agadmator...! you can watch his video on this game here- https://youtu.be/ab2erJNjZ6I |
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Jul-31-21 | | Omnipotent00001: Can the sons of glenn vanlaningham be eliminated from the gene pool as if by nuclear holocaust? And can the big bad Jew from 1991 silently leave my life. I didn't like your Krishan Arora trick at Jewish or freak show at the v.a. in Louisville at all. 2004 nuclear weapon was better. |
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Jul-31-21 | | beenthere240: The comment from <An Englishman> says it all. ?14 d5 was smart and insightful. Maybe Capablanca could have refuted it, but Bacrot?s no Capa. |
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Jul-31-21
 | | harrylime: The SAINT MAG OF THE FJORDS has been yappin away about this game on social media. He's a genius is ower Magnus.
When he flooks up the game was a mess..blah blah blah ... Yet when he wins it's I did this I did that ... the guy had no chance .. blah di blah lol lol |
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Jul-31-21
 | | harrylime: Wow. And the sycophancy regarding Carlsen is getting suffocating now .. Give it a rest guys ... go do it in your spare room.Jeeeez... Carlsen makes loads of mistakes... nobody is around good enough to punish them tho. |
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Jul-31-21
 | | MissScarlett: <Hazz>, until <Magnus> loses a game in under 10 moves, you're going to have to soooook it oooop. |
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Jul-31-21
 | | saffuna: <And the sycophancy regarding Carlsen is getting suffocating now> And <Harrylime>knows sycophancy when he sees it. |
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Jul-31-21
 | | harrylime: <<MissScarlett: <Hazz>, until <Magnus> loses a game in under 10 moves, you're going to have to soooook it oooop.>> lol lol lol
He's good. He's very very good. I know this. But I do wonder about the competition he gets. Chess ratings are mega inflated and this kinda disguises what's actually out there. |
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Jul-31-21
 | | harrylime: <<saffuna: <And the sycophancy regarding Carlsen is getting suffocating now>
And <Harrylime>knows sycophancy when he sees it.>> We still on posting terms then ??
I've taken a few pot shots at yoooooze lately loike. Respects. x |
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Jul-31-21
 | | perfidious: <harryslime> posts of sycophancy, come to Carlsen, but obviously reads little of the titleholder's fiercest detractors' posts. |
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Jul-31-21
 | | harrylime: <<perfidious: <harryslime> posts of sycophancy, come to Carlsen, but obviously reads little of the titleholder's fiercest detractors' posts.>> WIERDO lol lol lol |
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