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Thomas Bree vs Valer Krutti
Vikings Masters 1st (1999), York, rd 5, Dec-17
Trompowsky Attack: General (A45)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Jul-26-21  Steve.Patzer: So I am like, Rd8+
Jul-26-21  SamAtoms1980: 38.Rd8+ Nxd8 39.Qd7+ and 40.Qxd8#

I would say the way this game actually turned out is...... cheesy

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  Willber G: <hdcc: Unfortunately Bree didn't know it was a Monday.>


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  Messiah: Unusually easy, even for a Monday. Nice, though!
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  murkia: <hdcc: Unfortunately Bree didn't know it was a Monday.>

Your wit rating exceeds your chess rating :-;

Jul-26-21  BxChess: <raymondhow: Scared me, thought I had missed a Monday!> I used to feel like that about Fridays, but I gradually got familiar with missing ever earlier in the week and now I fear nothing.
Jul-26-21  Caissas Clown: <hdcc> : 'Unfortunately Bree didn't know it was a Monday.>

The win could be even more Monday-fied , if Black had chosen to play ...38 Ke7.White then has the cruel 39.Qf6+ , needlessly delaying mate by one move , but giving us a Q sac.

Unfortunately Bree didn't know it was a Monday.

Jul-26-21  Caissas Clown: <hdcc> : 'Unfortunately Bree didn't know it was a Monday.'

The win could be even more Monday-fied , if Black had chosen to play ...38 Ke7.White then has the cruel 39.Qf6+ , needlessly delaying mate by one move , but giving us a Q sac.

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  Willem Wallekers: Dec-17 1999 was a Friday. Bree was looking for a difficult solution.
Jul-26-21  lost in space: 38. Rd8+ Nxd8, 39. Qd7+ Kf8, 40. Qxd8#
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  chrisowen: Luftus i keyums lavacious Rd8+ game its awooga ivdrip jangle keyums aghast quoshes luftus i keyums lavacious jinxes fluffs flabby bangvicer its crew quicks quaint hurry doyen its i fox goodus ventus i keyums few its dunce its z animals ventus keyums Kf8 eeyore amalgamate i keyums aorta its Qc4 finish abracadabra keyums mob-handed its addups keyums lavacious goofball concubine ehsums dividends oblongs diligence its mate 3 its hoofed its ok ie keyums victor blanched its lame its dug its wits end keyums ventus do Rd8+ duff-em up;
Jul-26-21  awfulhangover: Move 38. Maybe a time scramble?
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  chrisowen: Handlebar d8 moustache?
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  chrisowen: Bucket-and-Spade no?
Jul-26-21  Brenin: <Caissas Clown>: 38 ... Ke7 39 Qf6+ is answered with 39 ... Rxf6, e.g. 40 exf6+ Kxf6, and White has nothing better than a few checks with his Rs.
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  Teyss: <Brenin> 39… Rxf6 40. R3d7# as pointed out for the previous move by agb2002, Mrcomputer55 and… Brenin.

But agreed 39. Qf6+ delays mate by one move as Caissas Clown said. It’s a bit sadistic.

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  Teyss: <hdcc: Unfortunately Bree didn't know it was a Monday.> LOL and good point: always easier to see the solution when we know there is one available and roughly how difficult, without time pressure.
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  NMABQjmgChess: I started w/ 38) Rd8+ and it is forced from there as others have noted. Again, as someone else noted, White may have been under a lot of time pressure.
Jul-26-21  AlicesKnight: Saw Rd8+ quickly - surprised Bree did not, but ssume he was cheesed off later.
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  Once: With the black king on e8 and only one kingside pawn remaining. who would have thought that Black would be vulnerable to a back ranker?

Not Bree, it seems.

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  HeMateMe: Oh, now I get it. White missed the win. R-d8+ is the killer.
Jul-26-21  NBZ: To be fair to Bree, both White and Black were shuffling their pieces in the last few moves. During that time the Black queen was guarding d7, making the tactic impossible. The combination only became feasible when the Queen moved to c4, but by then White had probably already assured himself that there was no way to break through.
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  Peligroso Patzer: <hdcc: Unfortunately Bree didn't know it was a Monday.>

Or maybe he did know it was a Monday … immediately thought “Queen Sacrifice!” … considered 38. Qxd6 the obvious candidate move … only to discover it didn’t work.

Short of time and needing to reach move 40, he tried 38. R6d5 to block one defense to the queen sac (the recapture on d6 by the black queen) … after which there was no longer a win of any sort in the position.

<Moral of the story>: Not all Monday puzzles involve queen sacrifices.

Jul-26-21  Saniyat24: well even I could see that Rd8+wins...!
Jul-27-21  TheaN: <38.Rd8+ Nxd8 (Ke7 39.R3d7#) 39.Qxd7+ Kf8 40.Qxd8#>. Surprising that White missed this, you would look at Rd8+ firsthand when you're in such an attack.
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