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Oct-20-19
 | | Check It Out: Lots of controversy over Matlakov's resignation: Some say it was appropriate; others, it was a gift. The debate is about Magnus's ability to close out a Q vs. R endgame; it's a difficult ending that has been failed by name GMs.
Well, does Magnus have the chops? Haha!
Anyway, it's all conjecture at this point.
What's not is that Carlsen has a good starting position from which to finish it off. He'll have just captured a pawn so the 50 move rule will just start, and he'll do it with a check tempo: Reignation after 80.Qd2+:
 click for larger viewAfter the obvious 80...Ke4 81.Qd5+ Kf4 82.Qxc4+:  click for larger viewThat's about as good as you could ask for with 50 moves to go. |
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Oct-20-19
 | | Check It Out: <chancho> right you are, sir! |
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Oct-20-19 | | Granny O Doul: Matiakov must have felt there was no question about the outcome and that he himself had nothing to learn from watching Carlsen's technique. |
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Oct-20-19
 | | chancho: If 80...Rd3 then 81.Qf4+ Kc3 82.Kc5 and he still snags the pawn. |
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Oct-20-19
 | | chancho: Magnus: <He tried [Matlakov] to go into this fortress, but it's not a fortress... I mean, this one I knew from school... basically, I knew that it was not a fortress and I knew uh... how to break it.> |
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Oct-20-19 | | Atking: This is known since Philidor'book |
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Oct-20-19 | | frogbert: Nobody here found a previous game where Carlsen won with Q against R? It exists. |
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Oct-20-19
 | | saffuna: Carlsen had a totally dominating position after 33. Qf5. He took a lot of time. I don't see why he just didn't go in for the kill with 35. Qe8+. |
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Oct-20-19
 | | chancho: Carlsen said he was going to play 27...e5 but went to the bathroom before making the move. He comes back, sits down, and played 27...Bxf4 and he instantly realized what he did to his position. He must have been disgusted to the nth degree.
Oh Hell, we all screw up now and then. |
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Oct-20-19
 | | keypusher: <frogbert> The database here has only a couple of losses, funnily enough. Carlsen vs S Agdestein, 2004 (exhibition) Carlsen vs Karjakin, 2016 (blitz) |
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Oct-20-19 | | Carrots and Pizza: I thought R+P vs Q was a fortress. I guess not! Carlsen says he doesn't believe in fortresses, but I don't know how serious he is. |
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Oct-21-19 | | Olsonist: Q v R was the Walter Browne v Belle bet that Ken Thompson made. |
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Oct-21-19
 | | Check It Out: <frogbert: Nobody here found a previous game where Carlsen won with Q against R? It exists.> Out with it, then!
Good to see you, froggy. |
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Oct-21-19 | | frogbert: Hint: lichess.org
There's even a win in a bullet game (1 0) where Carlsen won in 77 moves. His opponent ran out of time, but it was mate in 4. |
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Oct-21-19 | | frogbert: <keypusher> Maybe you did something wrong with your search parameters? Carlsen vs M Vachier-Lagrave, 2019 |
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Oct-21-19 | | frogbert: Video here: https://youtu.be/Kr96LFbAbOY?t=421
He spent about 40 seconds of his time on moves 63 through 90 when he won MVL's rook. |
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Oct-21-19
 | | keypusher: < frogbert: Hint: lichess.org
There's even a win in a bullet game (1 0) where Carlsen won in 77 moves. His opponent ran out of time, but it was mate in 4.> OK, that's pretty impressive! Also, if your opponent has just broken down your would-be fortress and won your last pawn, that might affect your appetite for defending a R v. Q ending against him. |
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Oct-21-19
 | | keypusher: < frogbert: <keypusher> Maybe you did something wrong with your search parameters?
Carlsen vs M Vachier-Lagrave, 2019>
Yes, I was using the Endgames search feature -- guess they haven't indexed 2019 yet. |
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Oct-22-19
 | | ajk68: <I thought R+P vs Q was a fortress. I guess not! Carlsen says he doesn't believe in fortresses, but I don't know how serious he is.> Carlsen was saying that a bishop pawn on the 3rd rank (from black's point of view) does not form a fortress. Move everything over one file (knight pawn) and it is a fortress. There are very specific conditions for forming a fortress depending on the file and rank of the pawn. |
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Oct-22-19
 | | ajk68: I should also comment that a bishop pawn on the 2nd rank would also have been a fortress. Magnus knows these rules. I would suspect most GMs do. That Matlakov played this out is a bit surprising. |
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Oct-22-19 | | diceman: <chancho: Carlsen said he was going to play 27...e5 but went to the bathroom before making the move. He comes back, sits down, and played 27...Bxf4 and he instantly realized what he did to his position.> 27.e5 and 27.Bxf4 |
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Oct-24-19 | | spingo: 27.e5 would have been a good move and it might have led to another good move.
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27...fxg3
28.Rxf7 Qxe5
29.Qxg6 Qxc5+...
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30.Rf2+! and mate next move. |
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Oct-24-19
 | | Gypsy: <spingo: 27.e5 would have been a good move and it might have led to another good move. .... 30.Rf2+! and mate next move.> Pretty |
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Oct-24-19 | | spingo: <Gypsy> Chess is great, isn't it? These moves turn up and I think "O wow!" |
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Nov-03-19
 | | Gypsy: <spingo> Amen to that |
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