chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing
Francois Philidor vs George Atwood
Odds Game a1 Rook and c7 pawn (1795) (unorthodox), London ENG
Chess variants (000)  ·  0-1

ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

find similar games 8 more Philidor/G Atwood games
sac: 47...Rxb4+ PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: At the top of the page we display the common English name for the opening, followed by the ECO code (e.g. "000"). The ECO codes are links that take you to opening pages.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

Kibitzer's Corner
Aug-21-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sally Simpson: ***

Hi,

This game is rather unique. This is one where White gave Queen Rook Odds and 0-0-0 with the ghost of the Rook - which is allowed provided no other piece has at anytime during the game been on the square a1.

To get this game past the PGN error trap here:


click for larger view

White played 14 0-0-0 and Black played 14...Rf8.

So that explains the single-step 14.Kd1 Rg8 15.Kc1 Rf8 which gets us back into the main (albeit an extra move has been played).

That rule about no piece being allowed on a1 came to light after I posted a Percy Wenman problem.


click for larger view

White to play and mate in 2.

The solution is White gave Queen Rook odds and played 1.Kc1 (castling with the ghost of the a1 Rook) - The Rook already on a1 started the game on h1.

Various people formed a queued to correct me, (I have a nitty-picky fanbase) but I'm only the messenger here. Blame Wenman, or where ever he got it from - he was a bit a villian when it came to nicking to problems/puzzles without giving the real composer the credit.

C.N. 5641

Now you can enjoy the game and watch Philidor chopping wood to get to a won King and pawn ending. Pawns are the soul of chess don't you know.

Needs a pun relating to 0-0-0. This maybe the only game on record with it happening at QR odds.

***

Aug-21-19  sneaky pete: Why doesn't black capture that impertinent Bishop at move 8 and how does Philidor win the ending?
Aug-21-19  Retireborn: <sneaky pete> He sold his soul to the Devil. He wasn't using it for anything.
Aug-21-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  beatgiant: <Sally Simpson> <watch Philidor chopping wood to get a won King and pawn ending>

<sneaky pete>
<how does Philidor win the ending?>

The score shows 0-1 or Philidor <lost> the ending.

Aug-21-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sally Simpson: ***

Atwood won the game. Got mixed up editing around an Atwood chopping wood rewrite joke. (OOPS!)

I have no idea why the Bishop was not taken.


click for larger view

It's also strange odds - WQR for a BCP.

***

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.
  8. Do not degrade Chessgames or any of it's staff/volunteers.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.


NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: UNORTHODOX. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

<This page contains Editor Notes. Click here to read them.>

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2025, Chessgames Services LLC