|
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 3 OF 3 ·
Later Kibitzing> |
| Jun-14-18 | | morfishine: Sometimes, things are too obvious
<24.Qxc6> crunch |
|
| Jun-14-18 | | mel gibson: <Jun-14-18
Premium Chessgames Member morfishine: Sometimes, things are too obvious<24.Qxc6> crunch> Yes - takes a pawn, attacks 2 Rooks & defends the Knight.
Why didn't everyone see that like I did? |
|
| Jun-14-18 | | Marmot PFL: First three moves are easy but black keeps fighting and the finish has to be accurate from white. |
|
| Jun-14-18 | | Carlos0012358: <agb2002> your line C) works well through 27.Nf5, but from there I would have played 27.....a5, 28.Rxg7 axb4, 29.Rxh7 Kg8, 30.Rb7 Rd2, 31.Nh6+ Kh8, 32.Ng4 Raxa2......
Attacking the white king with both rooks.
Let me know what you think. |
|
Jun-14-18
 | | Jimfromprovidence: <wtpy> <Nice combo which I saw through Rg7+. Playing through the game I was stumped briefly by 27.. Kh8 but then saw Rg3 which allowed Gawain to consolidate his gains.> If 27...Kh8, 28 Rg3 below is better than you realized. 
click for larger viewIt wins the queen because of the threat 29 Nf7# |
|
| Jun-14-18 | | morfishine: <mel gibson...Why didn't everyone see that like I did?> Perhaps the move <24.Nd6> was first seen by most. This happens often in these positional problems emanating from real games vs a puzzle created from scratch |
|
| Jun-14-18 | | wayndom: From the position shown, doesn't 24.Qe6 end the game faster? 24...Re8, 25.Nd6 Am I missing something here? |
|
| Jun-14-18 | | morfishine: <wayndom> Awkward is <24...Qxe4+> 25.Kb2
Rxb4+ 26.cxb4 Qxb4+ |
|
| Jun-14-18 | | njchess: 24. ♘d6! ♖e5 ▢ 25. ♖xe7! +- Black has few if any good moves at this point. Perhaps 25. ... ♕d3+, forcing the queen trade, is the best of the worst. More likely, he should just resign. |
|
Jun-14-18
 | | OhioChessFan: <morfishine: Sometimes, things are too obvious
<24.Qxc6> crunch> <mel gibson: Yes - takes a pawn, attacks 2 Rooks & defends the Knight. Why didn't everyone see that like I did?> 24...Re8 25. Qxb5 Qxe4+ 26. Qd3 Qxg2 and Black still has a pulse. 
click for larger view24...Rab8 and White has a lot of worries of a perpetual. 24...Rbb8 and both Rooks are defended, and Black intends Rc8. White is much better, but I don't see this as clearly winning as the game line. Anyway, that's 3 lines for White to think over and none of them seem as clear cut as the game line. |
|
| Jun-14-18 | | et1: All the combination looks like magic In the final position white threatens Kf7 "! with fork and winning the Rook or mating. Amazing ! |
|
| Jun-15-18 | | mel gibson: < I don't see this as clearly winning as the game line.> True - but it's still a solution. |
|
Jun-15-18
 | | agb2002: <Carlos0012358: <agb2002> your line C) works well through 27.Nf5, but from there I would have played 27.....a5, 28.Rxg7 axb4, 29.Rxh7 Kg8, 30.Rb7 Rd2, 31.Nh6+ Kh8, 32.Ng4 Raxa2...... Attacking the white king with both rooks.
Let me know what you think.>
The possibility 27... a5 didn't occur to me but in your line the natural 33.Rxb4 leaves Black a knight down without compensation. For example, 33... Rxg2 34.Nxf6 Rxh2 (to prevent h4-5-6) 35.Rh4+ Rxh4 36.Rxh4+ Kg7 37.Nh5+ Kg6 38.Kxa2, etc. |
|
| Aug-05-18 | | ChessHigherCat: I remember this one. Looks like a Tuesday puzzle with Nd6 threatening Qc7# and black has no defense except... Rd5! and the plot thickens. |
|
| Aug-05-18 | | yadasampati: How can a Thursday puzzle (June 14, 2018) suddenly become a Sunday puzzle? And again: if CG presents old puzzles, why do they choose puzzles of barely two months old? |
|
| Aug-05-18 | | malt: How do we get to know what is happening to this site. |
|
| Aug-05-18 | | ChessHigherCat: <malt: How do we get to know what is happening to this site?> Good question, it's kind of scary isn't it? If it's a question of budget, I would be happy to renew my membership early so <CG> could hire some new staff members because it seems kind of dangerous just letting a website float around uncontrolled. The budget for hiring could probably be vastly improved if non-members paid for a membership, too. |
|
| Aug-05-18 | | Big Pawn: <ChessHomosexualCat: I would be happy to renew my membership early so <CG> could hire some new staff members...> Boasting of his good deeds before he even does them. <Matthew 6:1 "Be careful not to do your good works in public in order to attract attention. If you do, your Father in heaven will not reward you.> |
|
| Aug-05-18 | | ChessHigherCat: : <Pigspawn> In other words, you are too cheap to do the same. No surprise, because you would have to pay for 10 sock puppets, too. As for being homosexual, that's as far as your imagination can extend because you've probably never had a woman in your life up in your boring puritanical dump. Your picture speaks a thousand words. There you are you are again, the world's ugliest groupie, with your fat rounded mouth poised under my banana, but dream on pillow-biter, it ain't gonna happen... If I were gay I would not be ashamed to admit it, because there's nothing wrong with it all, but you who obviously really are gay try to deny it out of the general spirit of perversity that pervades all your blather. |
|
| Aug-05-18 | | CHESSTTCAMPS: White has the material disadvantage of knight for a pawn and a bishop, but white's three active pieces are better coordinated against the opposing king than black's corresponding force. A key observation is that black's bishop is pinned, any bishop move allowing Qf7#. White can force the issue with 24.Nd6! Rd5 (forced) 25.Rxe7! R8d8 (Kxe7 26.Nf5+) 26.Rf7+ Kg8 27.Rxg7+! Kf8 (Kxg7 28.Nf5+) 28.Rg3 with white emerging a knight ahead. |
|
| Aug-05-18 | | CHESSTTCAMPS: Regarding prior commentary, I actually looked at 25.Qxc6 first, but decided it was more complicated than 25.Rxe7 after 25... Qd3+. |
|
| Aug-05-18 | | nalinw: For those STILL in the dark - the site's co-founder and webmaster - Daniel Freeman - passed away suddenly 2 weeks ago. It will take time to replace him ... |
|
| Aug-05-18 | | messachess: Clever. Didn't see the first (very obvious!) move. |
|
| Aug-05-18 | | cormier: <<<<Stockfish 8> 15... Qb8> better is 15...Qe7 16.Be3 Nxe3 17.fxe3 Bc5 18.Rd1 Bxe3 19.Nd6+ Kf8 = +0.38 (31 ply)> 16. Be3 + / = +1.03 (30 ply)> |
|
| Aug-05-18 | | cormier: 
click for larger viewAnalysis by Houdini 4: d 27 dpa
1. = (0.00): 13...Rb8 14.0-0 Qc7 15.Ne4 Bxh2+ 16.Kh1 Be5 17.Qh5+ g6 18.Bxe5 gxh5 19.Nxf6+ Kd8 20.Bxc7+ Kxc7 21.Bxd5 exd5 22.b3 Ba6 23.Rfe1 Rhf8 24.Re7+ Kd6 25.Rd7+ Kc5 26.b4+ Kb6 27.Rd6 Kc7 28.Rd7+ Kb6 29.Rd6 2. = (0.00): 13...0-0 14.Ne4 Bc7 15.0-0 f5 16.Nd2 e5 17.Bc5 Rf6 18.Re1 e4 19.g3 Be6 20.Nb3 Bf7 21.Qd2 Bb6 22.Rad1 Bxc5 23.Nxc5 Qe7 24.b4 Rd8 25.Bxd5 cxd5 26.Qd4 a5 27.a3 Rc8 28.Qe3 axb4 29.axb4 f4 |
|
 |
|
|
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 3 OF 3 ·
Later Kibitzing> |
Kibitzing
