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Magnus Carlsen vs Radoslaw Wojtaszek
Tata Steel Masters (2017), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 2, Jan-15
Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation (B90)  ·  1-0

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Jan-15-17
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  perfidious: <keypusher>, that's not what <Ah> heah!
Jan-15-17  ChessHigherCat: <ooda: Ah man I should just stop posting when Im this tired and can't edit or delete. It should be ...Kg5 then mate not ...Kg4 just ignore my nonsense.> I knew what you meant, and I was wondering if Qd4+ would mate, too, in case of ...Qxb2, so I liked your post(s). I think it's a bit easier, though: Kg5, f4+, if Kh6 Qh8# or if Kg4, Qd1#. Am I missing something?
Jan-15-17  ooda: Hi <chesshighercat> yes I think you're missing that f4 would be an illegal move since white would be moving into check by the queen on b2.:)
Jan-15-17  ChessHigherCat: Whoops, that right! I can't do all this in my head. I don't even have a chessboard anymore, do you know of some online chessboard that lets you move pieces around like a regular board (I know that seems like a ridiculous use of a computer but...)
Jan-15-17  vanmax48: do you all ever think about 11...g6?


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Now comes, 12.♕g3! ♘c6 13.♘xd4!, now, if 13...exd4 14.♘c7

This is intersting, why? Carlsen may has analyzed his chance to play Qg4 instead of something like Ng3 and calculate these variation OTB.. or he has analyzed it home, with his comp

Jan-16-17
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: The Najdorf Sicilian is an "Uncommon Opening?" Yes, that sounds right.
Jan-16-17
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  Richard Taylor: Why did Black resign?
Jan-16-17
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  Richard Taylor: I see, he cant recover that pawn. It was a pretty mediocre game by Carlsen though. The opening allowed Black a lot of good moves which he seemed too nervous to play. He must have been overawed by the "stature" of his opponent. Perhaps Carlsen just drifts along playing on his reputation....
Jan-16-17
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  Richard Taylor: I see, this fellow is better than this game indicates he beat Carlsen in a similar tournament a few years ago...

He used the Rat Defence!! Perhaps Carlsen has a fear of rats like Winston in '1984'

R Wojtaszek vs Carlsen, 2015

Jan-16-17
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  Richard Taylor: It seemed Carlsen played the Rat...But his opponent caught the rat and ate it...
Jan-16-17  Steve.Patzer: After dxc3 Wojtaszek was eyeing Qxe4+. Rxa4 spoiled that idea.
Jan-16-17  Grbasowski: Sicilian, not "Uncommon"!
Jan-17-17  ajile: So 27..h5 is answered by 28.Qxg6+ correct? And Black loses a pawn but gets the queens off.
Jan-18-17
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  PawnSac: < ooda: Ah man I should just stop posting when Im this tired and can't edit or delete. It should be ...Kg5 then mate not ...Kg4 just ignore my nonsense. >

you CAN delete a post. Try it. post a test message, then notice there is a blue "delete" option right below your avatar and the date stamp to the left of the message box. If you read your post and see a typo, you can CTRL C (copy) your post, delete it, then CTRL V (paste) your text in the comment box, edit it, then repost it.

Jan-18-17
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  PawnSac: < An Englishman: Good Evening: The Najdorf Sicilian is an "Uncommon Opening?" Yes, that sounds right. >

<g>
Sicilian, Najdorf (B90)

Jan-18-17
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  PawnSac: < ChessHigherCat: Whoops, that right! I can't do all this in my head. I don't even have a chessboard anymore, do you know of some online chessboard that lets you move pieces around like a regular board (I know that seems like a ridiculous use of a computer but...) >

here..
http://www.tim-mann.org/xboard.html

go there and download Winboard. When you set it as your default PGN viewer, you can click the DOWNLOAD button in the blue box below the game moves (pgn list) above and it will auto load the game into winboard and then u can select EDIT GAME in the MODE popup window and shuffle pieces all you want.

Jan-22-17  yurikvelo: this game multiPV
http://pastebin.com/amCcPUg0
Jan-23-17  whiteshark: <PawnSac: Sicilian, Najdorf (B90)> B90, indeed.*

*submitted (The ECO designation for the game is wrong)

Jan-23-17  ChessHigherCat: < PawnSac: < ChessHigherCat: do you know of some online chessboard that lets you move pieces around like a regular board (I know that seems like a ridiculous use of a computer but...) >

here..
http://www.tim-mann.org/xboard.html>

Thanks a lot, that's perfect. In a way it's a good exercise to have to visualize everything, and of course that's what you really have to do if you play tournaments (which I don't), but on the other hand it's nice to be able check everything on the board to make sure your line isn't a total hallucination :-)

Jan-23-17
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  keypusher: Boy, this game feels like it was about a million years ago.
Aug-08-18
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  fearlessone: After qxb2. It is forced mate in 9 with Qd4+ Kg5 with 4 different ways to Checkmate in 8 for white, e5 Kh6  47. Qh4+ Kg7  48. Qf6+ Kh7  49. Rh4+ Bh6  50. Rxh6+ Kxh6  51. Qh8+ Kg5  52. Qh4+ Kf5  53. Qf4# Or Ra6 Qxf2+  47. Kxf2 Bc5  48. Qxc5 Kh6  49. Qc8 f6  50. Qxd7 c2  51. Qh3+ Kg7  52. Ra7+ Kf8  53. Qc8# or Qh8 Bh6  47. Qe5+ f5  48. exf5 Qxf2+  49. Kxf2 gxf5  50. Ra6 Rd6  51. Qxd6 Kg4  52. Bf3+ Kh3  53. Qxh6# or . Qe5+ f5  47. Ra6 Qxf2+  48. Kxf2 Bc5+  49. Kg2 Bd6  50. Rxd6 Rxd6  51. Qh8 fxe4  52. Qh4+ Kf5  53. Qf4#
Jan-12-19
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  avtaplanit: Why deduct a point for 44.bxc3. It wins more easily than 44. Rxa4. I think Carlsen missed many forced mates (after hxg6) in this game. I am not impressed.
Or, am I wrong?
Jan-12-19
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  avtaplanit: What happens after 44.Rxa4 Qxb2!
White cannot force mate and Black has
a better game. Why did Black resign?
May-06-19  Ayaend: <avtaplanit> Qd4+ and mate is coming anyway
Dec-21-22
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  Bishoprick: It would seem that a3 does pretty well against the Najdorf. Weird. . .
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