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Markus Ragger vs Sebastien Maze
"Moves Like Ragger" (game of the day Nov-04-2016)
Baku Olympiad (2016), Baku AZE, rd 7, Sep-09
King's Indian Defense: Orthodox Variation. Classical System Misc. Lines (E98)  ·  1-0



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  offramp: Austria v France. This is not the kind of game you see every day.

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48.h8Q .

Sep-13-16  Gilmoy: I was most impressed by the patient <26.h4! 30.h5> pawn roller while a piece down. White won bonus freedom with his material because his pawns offered mating support like a piece, plus queening tricks.

Black's oddly impotent KN played <24..Ne3>, and was never heard from again. Now that's odd.

Nov-04-16  waustad: <Off> I watched those carefully. I confess that having lived in Austria for over a year many years ago helped. Spending a summer in England is part of the reason I follow them, though not as much. People still used shillings and pence to give you a time frame. I lived in Austria in the latter '70s, so it was more recent that my time in the British Isles. I do need to return sometime. I hope it isn't as an exile.
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: This seems like the sort of game where I should feel grateful that I have *zero* conception of what has transpired.
Nov-04-16  Elrathia Kingi: Wow, what a game. The position after 46.h7 looks like it comes out of a study: black has 2 extra pieces, but is powerless to prevent white from queening.

So many interesting and powerful moves in this game. The first is 17.cxd6. Took me a while to understand, but I think that the point is that 17...bxa5 is met by dxc7, and white will have a lot of compensation for the piece.

19.Nb4 would probably be a safer continuation, although Ragger was probably concerned about keeping his pieces near enough to the kingside to protect against mate.

21. Bf3 was an interesting shot. I put this one in Stockfish, which suggests that Qc2 would be a better continuation. However, after 21...Ng3 the computer recommends the immediate Nxd6, which seems to keep more lines open. After the game continuation, it is equal with a pull for black.

31...Nd7, while looking natural, seems to be a bit of a blunder. With Qd7, white still had an advantage, but with a lot of work to do.

36.Qd4 was a decent move, but the amazing move would have been 36.g3! Nd5 37.Qh8 Qg8 38.Qxg8 Bxg8 39.g6! hxg6 40.h7 Bxh7 41.Bxd5, and white has an overwhelming position.

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For instance, fxg3 leads to mate or loss of huge material, with 42.Rf1+ Ke8 43.Bf7+ Kf8 44.Be6+ Ke8 and now 45.Nd4! wins the house, as white is threatening Bf7+ and Ne6 mate.

37.Nxc5 was a serious blunder. Ke8 would have continued the game, but white should be winning anyway.

Amazing game.

Nov-04-16  7he5haman: 39...Qg8 looks like a better try to me
Nov-04-16  johnlspouge: < <7he5haman> wrote: 39...Qg8 looks like a better try to me >

Probably not. Stockfish gives an evaluation +116.43 P to White, after

40.dxc8Q Bxc8
41.Qf6+ Qf7
42.Qd6+ Kg8
43.Qd8+ Qf8
44.Bxh7+ Kxh7

My chessforum gives (probably outdated) instructions on how to download engines.

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  kevin86: White promotes twice...wins vs three pieces
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  Domdaniel: I'm with <An Englishman> - this game is beyond human comprehension.

I'd like to believe that a lot of it was preparation. Then again, if prep goes so deeply into such crazy positions, it's just as scary.

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  Domdaniel: < Stockfish gives an evaluation +116.43 P to White>


"I was down about 116 pawns, but I had compensation..."


Nov-04-16  johnlspouge: @<Domdaniel>: It's nice to know someone is reading between my lines, <Dom> :)
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  playground player: I'm surprised the pun wasn't "Solving the Maze."
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  Domdaniel: <pp> "Lost in the Maze" might be more accurate.

Though his name is pronounced 'Ma-zay', isn't it?

Nov-04-16  7he5haman: <johnlspouge> fair enough. I was viewing the game from my mobile, and using my brain. Can't get them all right all the time, though I did say "looks" rather than "is".

I wasn't asking where to download engines - and I already have one. Thank you for presuming that I didn't.

Nov-04-16  Gilmoy: That Ragger, he's got a lot of games with this GotD name!

GotD 2016/11/04 Fri "Moves Like Ragger" <you are here already>

... in which I (hereby) remark that it's been done:

GotD 2015/04/16 Thu "Moves Like Ragger"
I Popov vs M Ragger, 2013

... in which game's comments, <FSR> notes that it's been done:

GotD 2012/03/20 Tue "Moves Like Ragger"
M Ragger vs R S Jones, 2007 could add a new Premium search feature, "Puns Like This One" :)

Nov-04-16  thegoodanarchist: This was one of those "deep dark forests where 2+2 = 5", the famous quote by Tal

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