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Fabiano Caruana vs Magnus Carlsen
Gashimov Memorial (2015), Shamkir AZE, rd 3, Apr-19
Dutch Defense: Stonewall. Modern Variation (A90)  ·  0-1

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Apr-19-15
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  chancho: What is it about Carlsen that everyone plays a bad game against him?

It's inconceivable.

:-)

Apr-19-15  Hesam7: This is yet another argument for playing 1 Nf3! where you can meet 1...f5 with 2 d3!.
Apr-19-15
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  LucB: This patzer has a question about one of the moves in the game..

Instead of 28. Bf1 why not 28. c5 first (fixing Carlsen's pawn on c6)? He could always have played Bf1 eventually, giving this piece scope.

TIA!

Apr-19-15
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  LucB: Hmmm ... nevermind... 28 ... Rd5, right?
Apr-19-15  MagnusVerMagnus: Seems like Fab is gonna get on the frequent and preferred client list for Magnus. At least the lessons he is getting in the Stonewall Dutch, lmao, will cost less.
Apr-19-15  MagnusVerMagnus: < Fisayo123: That was a really poor endgame from Caruana. Carlsen just had to play normal moves. The guy really is out of form. > Obviously you do not understand that Fabio at his worst is still a top 5 player in the world, you must not understand chess like SirRuthLess, lmao
Apr-19-15
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  tpstar: <1971> This is what I had in mind = R Wojtaszek vs Carlsen, 2015

I have a pet theory that early Rook Pawn advances in the Ruy Lopez Berlin like 10 ... h5 & 10 ... a5 Opening Explorer are computer derived as they go directly against classic principles.

Apr-19-15  Everett: <13....Bxe5 never would have occurred to me. >

As a Stonewall and Botvinnik Formation player, it is common for me to look for this B for N exchange, especially if it leaves the square filled with a pawn. The structure favors Ns, and the pawn prevents using the e5 square as an outpost for pieces.

Apr-19-15
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  keypusher: < tpstar: <1971> This is what I had in mind = R Wojtaszek vs Carlsen, 2015 I have a pet theory that early Rook Pawn advances in the Ruy Lopez Berlin like 10 ... h5 & 10 ... a5 Opening Explorer are computer derived as they go directly against classic principles.>

Or maybe he's been studying Larsen? But I wouldn't be surprised if you were right.

Apr-20-15
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  Check It Out: Quintessential Carlsen.
Apr-20-15
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  whiteshark: Gr8 chess24 report with photos and analysis: http://chess24.com/en/read/news/sha...
Apr-20-15
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  Penguincw: Video analysis of this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZQ....
Apr-20-15  Ulhumbrus: <chancho: What is it about Carlsen that everyone plays a bad game against him?

It's inconceivable. > Something like this was said of Lasker. Perhaps Carlsen plays well enough to take better advantage than most players of not only obvious blunders but of slighter errors and less obvious errors as well. There is no quick remedy for his opponents for that, unless you believe that it is possible for a player to increase his or her knowledge, skill and proficiency quickly.

Apr-20-15
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  ajk68: <chancho: What is it about Carlsen that everyone plays a bad game against him? It's inconceivable. >

Carlsen demonstrates a large part of what grandmaster chess is about - accumulating advantages. Carlsen seems a bit unique in that he does this in the endgame from fairly equal positions. It's like the endgame is the start of a new game for him; it's almost like FischerRandom just with a reduced number of pieces and pawns.

Apr-21-15
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  diceman: <Ulhumbrus:

<chancho: What is it about Carlsen that everyone plays a bad game against him? It's inconceivable. >

Something like this was said of Lasker.>

Bobby Fischer:
"People have been playing against me below their strength for fifteen years."

Apr-21-15
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  Dionysius1: I've read that the reason everyone seems to play a bad game against Carlsen is just that he sets problems for his opponents longer than they can stand and in the end they get so worn out fielding one problem after another, that the last one gets them.
Apr-21-15  extremepleasure2: 13. Nb1 is the most passive move in the position. IMO he should have played Ndf3 with the idea of Nd3-Nfe5-f3.That's the common maneuvre for white in Dutch Stonewall.
Apr-22-15
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  Check It Out: I like this game. Carlsen seems to have a hypnotic effect on super-strong opponents. Caruana most likely wouldn't have played 30.Ra1 against anyone else, and he probably would have played 27.f3.
Apr-24-15  dumbgai: I'm guessing that losing to Caruana at last year's Sinquefield Cup pissed off Carlsen. He's been thrashing him in their encounters since then.
Apr-24-15  MagnusVerMagnus: yeah he was pissed that Fabiano was the cock of the walk after that.
Apr-29-15  1 2 3 4: <Dionysius1> I sure do hope you don't actually believe that.
May-18-15
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  Dionysius1: Eh? Why not!
Jan-16-16  Howard: Shipov called this one of the two best endgames of 2015.
Jun-25-16  Ulhumbrus: If 25 Re7 won't win the e6 pawn one alternative is 25 Re1 followed by 26 Bf1
Oct-02-16
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  thegoodanarchist: <Howard: Shipov called this one of the two best endgames of 2015.>

The other may have been this one:

Carlsen vs M Vachier-Lagrave, 2015

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