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| Sep-22-14 | | nottogoodabeginner: what's the big deal about being first? There's a verse in the Bible that says the last shall be first and the first last. |
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Sep-22-14
 | | Sally Simpson: Funny how a wee puzzle like this triggers all kinds of memories from things written or read. The Yates Hastings Trick:
He played the same idea as White at Hastings in 1923. 
click for larger viewYates vs G Norman, 1923
....and walked into the same trick as Black at Hastings in 1927. 
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| Sep-22-14 | | Nick46: difficult for a Monday but I gor it |
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| Sep-22-14 | | zb2cr: 21. Rh8+, Kxh8; 22. Nxf7+, Kg8; 23. Nxd6 and White has Q+2P vs. R+B. |
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Sep-22-14
 | | Willber G: Second! |
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| Sep-22-14 | | Monocle: <nottogoodabeginner> Most forums I've been on outright ban people from making inane "First" posts, because it's just irritating and pointless spam. |
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Sep-22-14
| | Sally Simpson: ...and they are wrong.
Igor Nikolayev was first! |
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Sep-22-14
 | | Once: There is perhaps a little more to this than winning the black queen. Here is the position after 21...Kxh8 22. Nxf7+ Kg8 23. Nxd6
click for larger viewYes white has won the black queen, but he has had to spend a bishop and a rook doing so. And in general terms a bishop and rook are more or less the same as a queen. More importantly, white has snaffled a couple of pawns during the exchange. The h7 pawn via the original bishop sac (19. Bxh7+) and the f7 pawn (22. Nxf7+). It is arguably those pawns that give white the win more than the trade of R+B for the black queen. That and the weakened black pawns left alive. |
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| Sep-22-14 | | goodevans: <nottogoodabeginner: ... There's a verse in the Bible that says the last shall be first and the first last.> I believe that refers specifically to queues for public transport. Incidentally, I think your name is missing an "o". I'm not familiar with the verb "to good". |
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Sep-22-14
 | | Penguincw: Finally a Monday puzzle! It's been a whole week since the last Monday puzzle. ;) Anyway, this puzzle is actually a little too easy, as 21.Rh8+ Kxh8 22.Nxf7+ picks up the queen. At the end of all this, white will be up a queen and 2 pawns for rook and bishop. |
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| Sep-22-14 | | pericles of athens: Rook check sets up knight fork. |
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Sep-22-14
 | | gawain: Something different indeed. Clearly h8 is the first stop but there is no mate in the offing. Next best thing: a knight fork to win the queen |
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| Sep-22-14 | | kevin86: The rook sac at h8 nets a family check and winning of the queen. A twist for Monday! |
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Sep-22-14
 | | Bubo bubo: No ♕-sac today, but a ♕-win: 21.Rh8 Kxh8 22.Nxf7+ and 23.Nxd6. 21.Ng6 would be cooler and more monday-ish, but Black's queen is protected: what a bummer! |
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| Sep-22-14 | | LucB: If Black plays 19...Nxh7 (instead of 19...Kxh7), then White can play 18. Qxf7, but then what? Doesn't the attack just fizzle? |
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| Sep-22-14 | | DarthStapler: Got it easily |
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| Sep-22-14 | | David2009: Puzzle position I Nikolayev vs G Rusyniak, 2004 White to play 19?:
click for larger view<LucB: If Black plays 19...Nxh7 (instead of 19...Kxh7), then White can play 18. Qxf7, but then what? Doesn't the attack just fizzle?>
After 19.Bxh7+ if Nxh7 20.Qxf7+ Kh8 21.Ng6#
Black's best was 19...Kf8 but White then has a strong attack a Pawn up. |
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| Sep-22-14 | | LIzzard: Once - I agree it is the pawns that make this a little more interesting. If the pawn position was even, I may be tempted to keep fighting if I were black |
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| Sep-22-14 | | schachfuchs: So, 18... Bb7 was the main mistake?! What would have been better to avoid the 'original theme: 19.Bxh7+' ? 18.... h6?! 19.Rg3 |
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| Sep-22-14 | | BOSTER: <schachfuchs: what would have been better to avoid 19.Bxh7+?>. To play not 17...b6 and 18...Bb7
but 17...Bd7 and 18...Be8 protecting f7. |
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| Sep-22-14 | | vajeer: <Once:It is arguably those pawns that give white the win more than the trade of R+B for the black queen. That and the weakened black pawns left alive.> Well said. I would add one more thing - strong knight posted on d6. |
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| Sep-22-14 | | LucB: Thanks <David2009>.. hmm I guess the attack doesn't fizzle after all!.. more like 'sizzle'. ;) |
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| Sep-22-14 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: <watwinc>'s post was a rare exception -- perhaps a typo? But solving a position as quickly as possible is important in chess, so I don't see why people are complaining about those who try to race to be first with a puzzle solution. |
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| Sep-30-14 | | MarkFinan: This is from a game I played in February of this year I think. After Bxd6 ..QxB. It's very very similar to the position on the POTD! Same thing. Sac a piece on h8 for the knight fork. I just saw this on chessgames dot com's facebook post and thought 'I recognize that game'. It's spooky similar! 
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| Sep-30-14 | | MarkFinan: I know I say I have a bad memory but I just shocked myself by remembering this position! After Bxd6 QxB.... It's nearly the same position!? 
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sac: 19.Bxh7+