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Magnus Carlsen vs Arkadij Naiditsch
Tromso Olympiad (2014), Tromso NOR, rd 7, Aug-09
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Romanishin Variation. English Hybrid (E20)  ·  0-1



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  Domdaniel: <Carlsen was mandandled in the endgame?> I know it's probably a typo, but 'mandandled' is a beautiful word.
Aug-10-14  zanzibar: ! (bang!)
Aug-10-14  bobthebob: <Many of Carlsen's losses seem to have this same theme.>

Interesting idea. Just read an interview in which he talked about playing by intuition so maybe there is something to that idea. The idea is right, but just needed a bit more calculation.

<I asked him, based on my rating, how many beers he would have to drink for us to be an even match.

“No, it’s not like that. My play is based on intuition, no matter what state I’m in.”>

Aug-10-14  bobthebob: <Carlsen was mandandled in the endgame>

Being mandandled can affect your play. Some soccer players abstain from sex during the world cup.

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  MissScarlett: <Night off with the Naiditsch>
Aug-10-14  Cybe: „Can YOU beat a SuperGM?” Not this time, Mr. Carlsen.
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  Domdaniel: <Many of Carlsen's losses seem to have this same theme.> There actually aren't that many of them, certainly not in recent years. Perhaps not enough to make any thematic or statistical observations.

But - because his results and rating are so far ahead of the pack - we tend to *notice* his occasional losses, and maybe to project patterns onto them. I doubt whether any significant data can be gleaned from his rare losses.

Aug-10-14  john barleycorn: Carlsen up to now and according to this database played 1,665 games and lost 174. That is >10%.

Karpov played 3559 games and lost 235.
Fischer played 992 games and lost 86.
Capablanca played 818 games and lost 47.

All three less than 10% losses. And for each of the latter 3 some smart guy felt he must analyze, catagorize and most important commercialize the losses.

When there is a will, then there is a way.

Aug-10-14  cro777: "Magnus Carlsen does have a few weaknesses. Even endgames can be won against him", recently noted Loek van Wely in the latest issue (2014#5) of New in Chess magazine.

"Magnus is very strong in endgames. However the stats for the lucky few who <manage to reach a better endgame against him> are encouraging. There were three of them in 2013: Ivanchuk, Vang Hao and Caruana."

Naiditsch managed to reach a better endgame. After the game he commented: "He started to panic. It was a little bit strange to see Carlsen so nervous."

Aug-10-14  john barleycorn: <cro777> you probably know the old joke. 2 boxers in a fight and one gets terribly beaten up. In the break the trainer tells to this guy:

"You know, I have discovered his weak point."
"What is it?"
"Whenever he laid you he lets his defense down".

Aug-10-14  cro777: <john barleycorn> It seems that you have to be terribly beaten up to understand Arnold Schwarzenegger who said: "Strength does not come from winning".
Aug-10-14  john barleycorn: <cro777> to understand Arnold Schwarzenegger you have to comp your hair with a hammer.
Aug-10-14  visayanbraindoctor: I think World Champion Carlsen overlooked the maneuver 30.. Nf3 31. Bc3 g5 32. h3 h5 33. Kg2 g4.

Naidich went for the f3 square.

Suddenly, Carlsen's King is trapped away from the action, and it's now Naidich who has grabbed a juicy square, the f3 hole (usually it's Carlsen who does the square grabbing hole occupations). Carlsen's pawn advantage has been completely negated by Black's positional pluses. Still drawable, but like most players, even Carlsen is not immune to making losing errors, and he does so under pressure in the ensuing endgame.

Aug-11-14  haydn20: I think perhaps Carlsen made a move-order error (there must be a German compound word for this!)as early as 23. Bd2 rather than 23. Be3, since if now 23...Ne2+ 24. Kh1, Black's N is stranded (24...Nc3? 25. Rec1; and if 23...Nd5 then 24. Bd2 or 24. Bd2 and it looks like Black has problems. Still, White may be until the turkey 38. e6? instead of Rc7.
Aug-12-14  Poisonpawns: What happens on 49.Kd4
Aug-12-14  cro777: Naiditsch planned to answer 49.Kd4!? with 49...Nb6 50.Ke5 Nd5
Aug-12-14  Poisonpawns: <cro777> Thanks, Im having trouble seeing how black win after 49. Kd4!?Nb6 50.ke5 Nd5 51.Ba1 Kf7 though
Aug-12-14  cro777: 49. Kd4!? Nb6 50.Ke5 Nd5 51.Ba1 Kf7

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52.Kd4 a2 53.Kc4 Nf6 54.Kb3 Ne4 55.Kxa2 Nxf2

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This position is theoretically won (Black mates in 26)

Aug-13-14  cro777: "But could Carlsen have saved himself at the very end? Or was he lost anyway?"

GM Karsten Mueller analyses this endgame discovering some hidden possibilities.

Position after 48...a3

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Here, instead of 49.Kf4? which loses valuable time, it seems that the direct 49.f3! still draws.

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  Natalia Pogonina: GM Naiditsch annotates his winning #ChessOlympiad endgame vs. World #Chess Champion Carlsen:
Aug-22-14  john barleycorn: Thank you for that Ms. Pogonina. Very instructive.
Feb-09-15  bennyvsfischer: its not anti-Benoni variation??
Aug-08-16  gareeb: Brilliant game from Naiditsch ..
Aug-08-16  gareeb: Ender's Game ..
Jun-18-18  Omnipotent00001: 56...Kf5 is mate in 23
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