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| Nov-03-14 | | agb2002: The material is complete.
White can exploit the momentary weakness of the light squares around Black's royal family with 5.Bxf7+: A) 5... Kxf7 6.Ng5+
A.1) 6... Ke8 7.Ne6 traps the queen.
A.2) 6... Kf8 7.Ne6+ wins the queen.
A.3) 6... Kf6 7.Qf3#.
B) 5... Kf8 6.Ng5 Nb6 7.Ne6+ Bxe6 8.Bxe6 looks very bad for Black. |
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| Nov-03-14 | | Eduardo Leon: It is Fischer vs Reshevsky, 1958 all over again, only easier. <5.♗xf7+ ♔xf7 6.♘g5+ ♔e8> 6...♔f6 7.♕f3#.
<7.♘e6> |
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| Nov-03-14 | | cocker: White made hard work of finishing the game. 19 Nxd6 wasn't really necessary. |
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| Nov-03-14 | | patzer2: <Cheapo by the Dozen: Not quite your typical Monday.> Got it, but it wasn't so easy for me to decide between 5. Bxf7+ and 5. Ng5. Could this be chessgames.com's response to yesterday's complaint about an "easy Sunday" puzzle? I'd submit this is not such an easy Monday as it involves seeing two separate lines of play, three moves ahead. First there's the middle of the board mate-in-three 5.Bxf7+ Kxf7 6.Ng5+ Kf6 7. Qf3#. Then there's the three-move trapped Queen line 5.Bxf7+ Kxf7 6.Ng5+ Ke8 7.Ne6  . Also, there's an alternative winning line in 5. Ng5 e6 6. Bxe6! fxe6 7. Nxe6 Qe7 8. Nxc7+ Kd8 (diagram below).
click for larger viewHere finding the winning line 9. Nc3! (not 9. Nxa8? Qxe4+ 10. Kf1 b6  ) 9...Nb6 10. Nxa8 Nxa8 11. 0-0! (or 11. Bf4! ) is far from an "easy Monday" task. P.S.: Murphy's law says "if something (e.g. task of solving an easy chess puzzle) can go wrong it will." A possible corollary or derived law might be "nothing is as easy as it looks." |
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Nov-03-14
 | | Penguincw: I'm not sure if this is a tricky Monday or I simply spent too much time "investigating" in the ChessBookie game, but I did not see this puzzle the whole way (I got 5.Bxf7+ Kxf7 6.Ng5+ Kf8 and thought about following up with 7.Qf3 and 8.Qf7# 1-0, but a move like 7...Nb6 saves black). |
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| Nov-03-14 | | patzer2: <cocker: White made hard work of finishing the game. 19 Nxd6 wasn't really necessary.> Though 19. Nxd6 wins, the better way to open up the position is probably 19. h4! gxh4 20. f4! . |
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| Nov-03-14 | | zb2cr: Seen this one before--not this game, but the position. 5. Bxf7+ and if Black takes the Bishop with the King, 6. Ng5+ gives Black three unpleasant choices: a. 6. ... Kf6; 7. Qf3#.
b. 6. ... Ke8; 7. Ne6 traps the Black Queen and White by Q vs. N+B. c. 6. ... Kf8; 7 Ne6+ forks the Queen. |
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| Nov-03-14 | | geeker: <Penguincw: I'm not sure if this is a tricky Monday... but I did not see this puzzle the whole way...> Same here. 5. N:f7 screams out to be played, but I didn't calculate all the variations. Monday puzzles are usually more forced. |
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Nov-03-14
 | | sleepyirv: While 5. Bf7+ Kxf7 6. Ng5+ is a familiar pattern, it took me a moment to remind me why it was since there are no deserving Queen checks afterwards. But I remembered Ne6 either traps or forks the Queen and the rest was easy. It's Black right to play on, but boy I would have preferred to go to the skittles room to play blitz then defend this position. |
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| Nov-03-14 | | Cardinal Fang: Santasiere vs R Byrne, 1946 |
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Nov-03-14
 | | skeptic50: The game was over after 8.Nxd8 -- my guess is that either Hughes had nothing to do for the rest of the day, or else had a side bet that he could survive for at least 30 moves. |
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| Nov-03-14 | | WJW147: What was Roy thinking? He wasn't thinking about chess. |
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| Nov-03-14 | | YetAnotherAmateur: Looking at the refusal lines, which are more interesting, you have something like:
5. ... Kf8
6. Ng5 Ndf6
7. Be6 c5 (creating an escape for the queen)
8. Qe2 (cutting off counterplay from Nxe4)
From that position, white still has Nf7-Nh8, and a very smothered opponent. |
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Nov-03-14
 | | moronovich: <Kxf7 6.Ng5+ or enter step back proof 5...Kf8 wins a pawn g5 comes and black in disarray queen xrays although can get out of trouble now a g5 line wobble juicy e6 apple crumble 8d jam in bind band and bond exotic toxin e6 good to intoxicate blacks lifeless position have ignoble mission> Almost like in the common World. |
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| Nov-03-14 | | kevin86: I saw this as a little kid. Bxf7 is the key. If black takes with the king, the queen will be forked, smothered, or worst the king checkmated! A twist, not sac the queen, but win the queen! |
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| Nov-03-14 | | sfm: <skeptic50: The game was over after 8.Nxd8...> <Caissas Clown:
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If I am right - and if you read this , Roy Hughes - it was poor sportsmanship to play on after 7.Ne6> My oh my!
I hope that no young and potentially upcoming chess players read this. In chess (and in very few other games, like snooker), resigning is allowed, because the game (unlike most sports) can become totally unentertaining and trivial. But it is never, ever "poor sportsmanship" to play on, as little as doing the utmost to win a game of tennis even when you are behind 2-0 in sets and the opponent leads 5-0, 40-0 in the final. I recall a totally lost game in a team chess tournament, where I got an impossible draw after several hours. As it turned out, this draw became decisive for the outcome. Kurt, a team mate, came after the game and said with a laugh: "Actually, you don't play very well. But - you fight well!" The only compliment I ever bothered to remember (I suppose I must have gotten others? :-) The right time to resign is of course when you simply no longer can find any move you can bear playing. Where you have no more ideas and no more hope. If a player reaches this state after 8.Nxd8 I have more than a pretty good idea about how far he will go in chess. The whole string of our big heroes were - especially given the level they play on - late resigners. |
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| Nov-03-14 | | sfm: <Phony Benoni: ...
Then, too, I have managed to lose "wonner" positions than this. Such opponents do need to learn some manners.>
LOL! Brilliant as always. |
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Nov-03-14
 | | Bubo bubo: It seems as if Black has disregarded his weak spot f7. After 5.Bxf7+ he must not capture, because 5...Kxf7 6.Ng5+ loses either the king (6...Kf6 7.Qf3#) or the queen: 6...Ke8/f8 7.Ne6(+). And if Black refuses (5...Kf8)? I don't see a decisive continuation for White, but as it's Monday and Black's position looks rather ugly, I'm satisfied with 5.Bxf7+. |
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| Nov-03-14 | | dark.horse: Monday. Must be queen sacrifice day. D'oh! |
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| Nov-03-14 | | starry2013: If this is very easy then I should obviously give up chess. My computer opponent played Kf8 and I was left wondering how my Kn on g5 or Q on f3 would force anything. Even pushing the e pawn as well in some circumstances only got me so far. |
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| Nov-03-14 | | sfm: <starry2013: If this is very easy then I should obviously give up chess.
My computer opponent played Kf8..>
Well, but Black is a pawn down, w/ spoiled castling and weak white squares.The game in <Cardinal Fang>'s one-line post down this page shows how fast it could develop. |
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| Nov-03-14 | | BOSTER: <PB: a desire not lose in under 10 moves>. This is correct that some players I afraid to lose the game in the opening. But , is this really a great stimulus in our game?
Look haw many players are happy when somebody makes a blunder in the opening. Why do short games so attractive?
I know that <short> miniature will be a nice guest in any company. When I open a game , and see that the game has more than 60 moves, I don't like to read it. When I read kibitzing and see that comment is too long, I skip it. One exception-<Once>. But it is not necessary to exaggerate.
And here another <game>. When our bold naked hero was caught by young woman, who his <short> dignity, he tried to explain he was in the pool. And this episode we remember better than where we parked our car. |
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| Nov-03-14 | | Pedro Fernandez: Indeed this puzzle is very easy? I don't think so. |
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| Nov-03-14 | | ponaldpuck: Count me as another one who doesn't believe this fits in the "very easy" category. I stared at it for 10 minutes, figured the answer was probably Bxf7 since it is the most puzzle solutiony-looking move, but could not see where it led. |
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| Nov-03-14 | | ponaldpuck: I also figured ...Kf8 was the correct response. White is certainly better, but it's not game over by any means. |
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sac: 5.Bxf7+