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| Apr-18-14 | | cyclon: Almost, but not quite. I missed this peculiar game-line consisting about the defence 34. Rf3 and now White threatens 35. Qxg5+ ( this move is what I missed at first). Interesting is that Black still wins. As a consequence, naturally I missed 35. -Nxf3!! too. Cufflinks for Black! |
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Apr-18-14
 | | patzer2: Black has two ways to solve today's Friday (31...?) puzzle. Either 31...Bxf5 32. exf5 Nf3 33. Rxf3 gxf3  or the game continuation 31...Rxf5!! 32. exf5 Bd5+ 33. Bg2 Qh3! work. In the game continuation, an amusing defensive possibilty is 34. Re4!? (diagram below) 
click for larger viewHere 34...Bxe4? blunders and gives White a draw by perpetual after 35. Qxg5+ =. Instead 34...Nxe4! wins due to the mate-in-two threat 34...Nxe4! 35. Bxh3? Nxg3#. |
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| Apr-18-14 | | Nick46: A classic case of the <Dutch Defense: Leningrad. Matulovic Variation> Who thinks up these names fer gaaawds sake, and who learns them off by heart? |
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| Apr-18-14 | | morfishine: <31...Rxf5> 32.exf5 Bd5+ looked very strong, but after 33.Bg2 I had trouble visualizing 33...Qh3 <patzer2> Your second variation ending in 35...Nxg3# is more than "amusing"; Its important as it demonstrates an additional line on this B+N theme. Very nice! ***** |
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| Apr-18-14 | | gofer: This all looks pretty forced...
<31 ... Rxf5>
Black cannot afford to refuse the sacrifice as losing Nf5 for nothing is as good as losing anyway... <32 exf5 Bd4+>
<33 Bg2 Qh3!>
At this point black can give up trying to defend as all responses seem to lose... 34 Bxd5 f1=Q+
35 Qxf1 Qxf1#
34 Qf1 Bxg2+
35 Qxg2 f1=Q+
36 Qxf1 Qxf1#
34 Re4 Nxe4!
35 Bxh3/Qf1 Nxg3#
34 Rf3+ Nxf3!
35 Bxh3 Bxh3
36 Ne1+ Bg2
37 f1=R#/Bxg2#
34 f6+ Kxf6!
35 Re4 Nxe4!
36 Bxh3/Qf1 Nxg3#
34 f6+ Kxf6!
35 Rf3+ Nxf3!
36 Bxh3 Ne1+
37 Bg2 f1=R#/Bxg2#
<34 Rf3 Nxf3!>
<35 f6? Kxf6>
<36 Bxh3 Ne1+>
<37 Bg2 f1=R#/Bxg2#> ~~~
Yep... |
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| Apr-18-14 | | parmandil: After white interpolates the rook, either on e4 or f3, there is also the more prosaic 34... f1Q+ followed by 35... BxR. |
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| Apr-18-14 | | diagonalley: neat... very neat!... managed to visualise most (though not all) the sequence)... worthy of a perfectly bog-standard friday |
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| Apr-18-14 | | kurodo77: 31...Bxf5
32 exf5 Rh8
33 f6+ Kxf6
and now? Checkmate in h2. |
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| Apr-18-14 | | Ratt Boy: Me likey the Leningrad Dutch. Been playing it for 40 years. (I almost got the puzzle. I had 31…♖xf5 32.exf5, ♗d5 33.♗g2, ♕xh2+ 34.♔xh2, ♖h8+ and mate to follow. Bummer that I didn't have a Rook to play to h8.) |
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Apr-18-14
 | | Penguincw: 31...Rxf5 32.exf5 was pretty easy to spot , but I didn't catch 32...Bd5+. |
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| Apr-18-14 | | PJs Studio: I calculated all of it but chose 35...Nh4+
Does that mean I got it wrong? |
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| Apr-18-14 | | JohnBoy: I saw <cyclon>'s line but finished with 35.Qf1 Bxg2 36.Qxf2 f1Q+ - one move longer to mate. |
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Apr-18-14
 | | kevin86: Black is in check. So save the bishop, open lines for him ,and force checkmate! |
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| Apr-18-14 | | Patriot: 31...Rxf5 32.exf5 Bd5+ 33.Bg2 Qh3
34.Bxd5 f1=Q+
34.Qf1 Qxg2+ 35.Qxg2 f1=Q# |
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Apr-18-14
 | | Jimfromprovidence: A cool variation is after 32 Qc5. Black wins beginning with 32...Qh3!
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| Apr-18-14 | | dark.horse: Dynamite final position. |
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| Apr-18-14 | | Patriot: <Jimfromprovidence> That is a neat line if I'm thinking correctly. 33.Bxh3 Nxh3 34.Qe7+ Bf7 and white looks busted. |
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| Apr-18-14 | | morfishine: FWIW: White looked busted by move 11 |
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Apr-18-14
| | Jimfromprovidence: <Patriot> <That is a neat line if I'm thinking correctly. 33.Bxh3 Nxh3 34.Qe7+ Bf7 and white looks busted.?> Yes after 32 Qc5 the queen sacrifice 32...Qh3 forces mate for black. Another alternative to review is after 32 Qc5 Qh3 33 Qb5. 
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| Apr-18-14 | | stingray0104: 34. Rf3 was a tricky defense! |
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Apr-18-14
| | patzer2: <Jimfromprovidence> <...after 32. Qc5 Qh3! 33. Qb5> (diagram above), I correctly guessed 33...Nxe4! when 34. Bxh3 (34. Rxe4 Bd5! ) 34... gxh3! 35. Qf1 Nd2 leads to a quick mate. |
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| Apr-19-14 | | Patriot: <Jimfromprovidence> Wow--I'm thinking 33...Qxh2+ 34.Kxh2 Nf3+: 35.Kg2 Ne1+ 36.Kh2 Rh5+ and mate next.
35.Kg2 Ne1+ 36.Rxe1 fxe1=Q 37.exf5 Bxf5 looks winning. 35.Rxf3 Rh5+ 36.Kg2 - That's a problem in this line.
Here I considered 33...Nxe4 34.Bxh3 but didn't consider 34...gxh3. It's a very tough line. I probably would have played 32...Rf7 which should be a simple win. Your 33.Qb5 is a tough move to face. |
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Apr-19-14
| | patzer2: <Patriot> <I probably would have played 32...Rf7> I assume you mean 33...Rf7 from Jim's diagram, though 32. Qc5 that led to it can be met with 32...Rf7 . From <Jimfromprovidence>'s diagram, I considered 33...Rf7! , when after 33...Rf7! 34. Qxe5+ Kg6 35. Qb5 (diagram below) 
click for larger viewBlack wins with either the flashy 35...Nxe4! or the more mundane 35...Qh8 . |
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| Apr-19-14 | | Patriot: <patzer2> I was referring to 32.Qc5 Rf7, instead of 32...Qh3 which is really tricky. It's a great move, but OTB I may have gone with 32...Rf7 especially if I noticed 33.Qb5!. |
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| Apr-20-14 | | SuperPatzer77: < Patriot: <patzer2> I was referring to 32.Qc5 Rf7, instead of 32...Qh3 which is really tricky. It's a great move, but OTB I may have gone with 32...Rf7 especially if I noticed 33.Qb5!. > <Patriot> Instead of 32. exf5, 32. Qc5 Qh3!!, 33. Qe7+ Nf7! (Better than 33... Rf7 and the White Queen cannot get to g5 because the Black Knight covers g5.) See Patzer2's commentary responding to JimfromProvidence's --- 32. Qc5 Qh3!!, 33. Qb5 Nxe4! SuperPatzer77 |
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