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Levon Aronian vs Loek van Wely
Tata Steel Masters (2014), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 11, Jan-26
Dutch Defense: General (A80)  ·  0-1



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Feb-05-14  Cheapo by the Dozen: <TheaN>,

Good point!

Feb-05-14  chesslearning: How about 38…Ne3?
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  keypusher: Seems familiar somehow
Feb-05-14  schweigzwang: Yeah for some of us this was a bit too soon. Normally I'd be happy to "solve" a Wednesday one so fast, but ...
Feb-05-14  haydn20: I followed this one live and the Bd4! really stuck with me. I didn't even consider it during the game.
Feb-05-14  PJs Studio: Back in my younger days I would have seen Bd4+ but the only reason I found it today was because its in puzzle format. Nothing else works for black.
Feb-05-14  Jim Bartle: Saw it immediately, no problem at all. I mean, I <remembered> it immediately, from last week.
Feb-05-14  kamyk: Almost everyone saw it live, Internet is great:)
Feb-05-14  Everyone: <kamyk: Almost everyone saw it live, Internet is great:)>

<Everyone> agrees with almost all of what you have said and <Everyone> would also like to thank you for the balanced nature of your comments with respect to the aforementioned subject.

Feb-05-14  Patriot: Black is down two pawns.

I watched the ending of this game "live". Van Wely played 38...Bd4+! and Aronian resigned since no matter how white re-captures, 39...Qb1+ forces mate.

39.Kh1 Qb1+ 40.Ng1 Qxg1#

39.Kf1 Ne3+

39.Bf2 Qb1+ 40.Ne1 Qxe1#

The commentators were shocked after 38...Bd4+.

Feb-05-14  Patriot: For anyone who can't seem to get <JAVA> working... I finally fixed mine so now I can view the game at least in "Chess Viewer Deluxe". It still asks whether to run the viewer or not, but at least it works.

- Click on the Start menu and view all programs.

- Go to the "Java" folder and click on "Configure Java".

- Click on the Security tab and lower the security setting to "Medium".

I hope this helps...

Feb-05-14  Patriot: By the way, setting the viewer to "Chess Viewer Deluxe II" causes it to no longer ask about running it.
Feb-05-14  BishopofBlunder: God bless you, Patriot!!! I've been trying to fix that for a week now. Now that you have pointed out the solution, it seems so obvious (head-slap moment).

Much thanks.

Feb-05-14  ajile: This was easy since this is a recent game I analyzed. I check out every Dutch game I see.


Feb-05-14  ajile: <Patriot: For anyone who can't seem to get <JAVA> working... I finally fixed mine so now I can view the game at least in "Chess Viewer Deluxe". It still asks whether to run the viewer or not, but at least it works.

- Click on the Start menu and view all programs.

- Go to the "Java" folder and click on "Configure Java".

- Click on the Security tab and lower the security setting to "Medium".

I hope this helps...>

You can also add to your list of trusted websites. In Win 7 Java it's your Exception Site List.

Feb-05-14  Patriot: <ajile> Thanks! That worked also, so I set my security setting back to "high". You just have to make sure you type "http:// www. chessgames. com" (no spaces) when adding to the Exception Site list.
Feb-05-14  TheBish: Aronian vs Van Wely, 2014

Black to play (38...?) "Medium/Easy", Black is down two pawns.

Down material, Black is ready for a knockout punch. It was quickly apparent to me that it was based on a mating attack, with Black's knight conveniently taking away escape squares (f2, h2) on the second rank, needing only a back row check where White has insufficient defense. But 38...Qb1+ is easily answered by 38. Qd1 (but not 38. Be1?? Qxe1+! 39. Nxe1 Rxe1#). So, an interference on White's queen is required.


Of course! The only move to stop immediate mate is giving up the queen (39. Qxd4), which is obviously not an option. To wit:

(a) 39. Kf1 Qd3#.

(b) 39. cxd4 Qb1+ 40. Ne1 (Be1 is similar) Qxe1+ 41. Bxe1 Rxe1#.

(c) 39. Nxd4 Qb1+ 40. Be1 Qxe1#.

(d) 39. Kh1 Qb1+ and mates.

(e) 39. Bf2 Qb1+ 40. Ne1 Qxe1#.

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  Domdaniel: If Aronian can lose to the Dutch, anyone can.
Feb-06-14  torrefan: He didn't lose to the Dutch because he was ahead before his last move. He lost to Time and Swindle.
Feb-06-14  mrbasso: He still lost to the Dutch.
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  kevin86: Interference!! The queen will enter for the kill on black's next turn. Great intermezzo! Bravo!
Feb-15-14  PJs Studio: The Dutch is a solid opening. I'm a Benoni player, probably the least sound of all the established openings. Heck, the Benko's even better then the Benoni! ;)
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  Domdaniel: <PJs Studio> -- < I'm a Benoni player, probably the least sound of all the established openings> I play both the Benoni and the Dutch, and I can never decide which of them is less sound ... after a bad defeat with one of them, I revert to the other for a while. On the plus side, both offer good winning chances. Especially against unprepared opponents.
May-28-14  Andrijadj: Always Loek on the Bright Side of Life-would be my suggestion for the pun.
Dec-06-16  Saniyat24: I played with my computer as Black and won two consecutive matches using the opening d4 f5 Nf3 Nf6. It opens up great positions for both sides...
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