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Mikhail Tal vs Frederick Rhine
Simul (1988) (exhibition), Chicago, IL USA, Mar-16
Caro-Kann Defense: Panov Attack (B14)  ·  1-0

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Sep-26-13
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  FSR: This guy was pretty strong. 11...Nxd4, exchanging a center pawn for a rook pawn, seemed good to me, but apparently it's bad to weaken one's king position that way, especially if your opponent is Tal. No one else in the database played that move. Games Like Tal vs F Rhine, 1988 But it is possible for Black to play worse than I did. See Gulko vs Kaidanov, 1994; J Stocek vs Meduna, 1999.
Sep-26-13  Jim Bartle: I thought you took the pawn just to have an exciting, wide open game with Tal.
Sep-26-13
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  chancho: <FSR> Resigning right on time.

(No defense to h6.)

Must have been a thrill and a half playing Tal.

Sep-26-13
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  FSR: When I looked at the position before playing 11...Nxd4, White's attack didn't seem that strong to me. Apparently this guy is a better attacker than I am. :-)

Yes, it was very cool playing such an immortal player. He died only four years later, sadly. Not too surprising; he looked terrible, although he was still an awesomely strong player.

Sep-26-13
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  perfidious: <FSR>: Have to agree; while then fifty-one, Tal looked well into his sixties when we met, the week before this game.
May-25-15  tjipa: Sadly, it seems 11...Nxd4 was not a novelty after all, it was played in game Zinn-Marovic back in 1966, not available here, though. On the bright side, you followed a player who was an IM then (in 1966). Sadly (again), he lost that game. To finish on the bright side, your novelty was 14...Nxc3 and my Fritz says, it is better than 14...Qf6, played by Marovic. 14...b6 is even better, though.
Jan-04-21
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  HeMateMe: Are we by chance having a Tal themed week? I submitted this game with the pun <Rhine Crossings>, though it wasn't picked for pun of the day.

Rhine crossings refers to the allied strategy of crossing the Rhine river (Germany's last natural barrier) at multiple points in 1945 to give the German armies less chance of a successful defense.

Of course it also refers to our own <Frederick Rhine> and his encounter with the Wizard of Riga.

Oct-04-21
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  FSR: The engines these days say that in order to avoid the sort of dark-squared disaster that occurred in the game Black must play 15...f6! 16.Be3 Qd5 (the reverse order is also OK), with only a small advantage for White. I analyzed this game with GM Marijan Petrov a couple of years ago, and he also recommended 15...f6! After my 15...Bd7?! the engines say that Black is already in serious trouble.
Oct-07-21  0ZeR0: A game like this seems to me to have a historical significance for this website in the sense that it’s one of our best versus one of the best. It was a nice try, <FSR>. There is no shame in losing like this to one of the all-time greats.
Oct-07-21  LessThanAlphaZero: I propose "Rhineplasty" (although perhaps it is a bit aggressive)
Oct-08-21
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  FSR: Thanks, <0ZeR0>. I gave him a decent fight.
Oct-08-21
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  FSR: <LessThanAlphaZero> Ouch.
Feb-19-23
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  keypusher: I'd be thrilled to give someone like Tal this tough of a battle.
Feb-19-23  boz: Nice try.
Apr-23-23  thegoodanarchist: There is a band called "Over the Rhine".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over_...

Seems like an appropriate pun for this game, except for the fact that they are exceedingly obscure.

Dec-24-23
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  FSR: Surya Shekhar Ganguly in his Chessable course on the Semi-Tarrasch says that after 15...f6 "the position should be holdable without much trouble." But instead of taking the d-pawn he recommends the super-solid 11...Bd7! (possibly followed by ...Nce7 and ...Bc6) as even better. Not coincidentally, the engines agree with him on both assessments. Theory was less developed 35 years ago.
Dec-24-23
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  perfidious: <FSR>, in the first half of the 1980s, I faced the-then popular variation of 11.Be4 a few times, with ....Nce7 the most common response, before switching to what I felt was the more combative 5....Nc6 vs the Panov; believe there was an article in <Players Chess News>, ca 1982 on this transposition to the Semi-Tarrasch.

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Dec-24-23
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  FSR: <perfidious> Of course I knew about 5...Nc6 and its good reputation. I had drawn with it in a blitz tournament game against Albert Charles Chow in 1980 or so, but wasn't very knowledgeable about it or the Caro-Kann generally. (I usually played the Sicilian, but that seemed ill-advised against the great Tal.) I don't recall my thought process, but must have chosen 5...e6 because I wasn't booked up on 5...Nc6 and figured 5...e6 was a solid alternative.

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