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Peter Svidler vs Le Quang Liem
World Cup (2013) (rapid), Tromso NOR, rd 4, Aug-22
Slav Defense: General (D10)  ·  1-0



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Aug-22-13  rumpelstiltskin: 120) Rxc5+ ?
Aug-22-13  ninja warrior: If 120...Rxc5? then:

121.Kxc5 Kxa4 122.d8=Q b2 123.Qb6 Ka3 124.Kc4 Ka2 125.Kc3 and:

125...Ka1 126.Qxb2#
125...b1(Q) 126.Qa5#
125...b1(N)+ & black will eventually lose.

Aug-22-13  the.raven: so the old question "What is better? 1.e4 or 1.d4?" is resolved. 1.d4 is forced win for white in 138 moves.
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  Dionysius1: It was thrilling to watch the live broadcast as Svidler played all this with about 2 minutes plus 10 seconds increment per move from move 80 or so. Highlight of the World Cup for me so far.
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  HeMateMe: I could win the final position.

Interesting how Svidler traded off a lot of pawns, to really activate his 2-1 piece advantage. Usually trading pawns when up a piece results in a draw. Pretty instructive.

Aug-22-13  Caissa4ever: So impressive !!!
An awesome endgame with minor pieces.
Each move takes off flight squares from the foe king until it gets cornered and mated. Hats off !!
Aug-22-13  ceebo: My computer says its lost after 108...Rh1.

108...Kb6 and 108...Kc7 are possible saving moves with 109.d5 being answered with 109...b4 in both cases.

Aug-22-13  csmath: 108. ...Kb6 or 108. ...Kc7 would allow d5 on the next move and no master player would like to give that for free. 108. ...Kc7 does not make sense, in my view.

108. ...Kb6!
109. d5 b4
110. Kd4 b3!
111. Nd2 Rh4
112. Kc3 [nothing is better anyway] b2!

drawing king or knight away and now if king takes pawn the game is a draw since rook will be given for the pawn and another minor piece. If white does not take the pawn ... well, then it is a draw without any question.

Yes, LQL missed a draw but in blitz this is just not that easy to see.

What is funny how LQL keeps on playing in elementary mate endgame as if Svidler is some sub-1000 level beginner. Mind you, ironically this is the same player asking for protection from referees in theoretically drawn endgame KNR versus KR against Grischuk.

Aug-23-13  jphamlore: Svidler gave himself a chance to win this game using home preparation. It appears he was familiar with at least two games played by Kazhgaleyev including this one:

M Kazhgaleyev vs Van Wely, 2010

Observe the same thing happens, with White able to post the knight at k5 and more importantly be able to eventually pry open the c file, and then use the d4 pawn to post the rook at c5. Black's 6. .. Bf5 starts the chain reaction that leads to White's eventually winning control of the c file. Le followed theory showing he was prepared, but Svidler was prepared better.

Aug-23-13  fgh: <What is funny how LQL keeps on playing in elementary mate endgame as if Svidler is some sub-1000 level beginner.>

Maybe you haven't seen this game:

A Ushenina vs O Girya, 2013

Aug-23-13  csmath: Yikes. No I haven't. Jesus, a GM not being able to mate with B+N. That is really sad. This is like a formula 1 driver not being able to do parallel parking.

I think this is sheer lazyness of some modern players. I remember starting my chess as kid spending days on all the elementary mates.

I think I have this N+B mate 2-3 times in my chess career over the board and I could still remember my childhood studies. I do not remember what book was that I had for that [no computers then], I think it was Reuben Fine but I am not sure.

Svidler apparently had no problems either.

Aug-23-13  rumpelstiltskin: your right Ninja, i missed the mate threat on the A file if king advances
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  wordfunph: sad Le continued playing with K vs K+N+B :(
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  Dionysius1: Hi <Wordfunph>. Actually I'm glad Le continued - it was fun to watch.
Sep-17-15  kamagong24: instructive mate with B and N
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  whiteshark: Svidler walking overtime here

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