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Yang-Fan Zhou vs Neil L Carr
"Carr Before the Horse" (game of the day Aug-15-2021)
British Championship (2013), Torquay ENG, rd 9, Aug-06
Sicilian Defense: Dragon Variation. Yugoslav Attack Early deviations (B75)  ·  1-0



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Jan-12-14  yureesystem: A beautiful and complicated queen sacrifice by white.
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  sleepyirv: <Carr Before the Horse>
Aug-15-21  Cheapo by the Dozen: More than enough knight activity to justify the pun. Well done!

Interesting game, too, featuring a true trade of three pieces for a queen.

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  al wazir: <yureesystem: A beautiful and complicated queen sacrifice by white.>

It was beautiful and complicated, but it wasn't a sacrifice. White got three minor pieces in exchange for the ♕.

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  An Englishman: Good Evening: How does one handle such a position owning a Queen?

After 16.Rxd2, Black has a super-solid pawn structure on the King side, so it might have made sense to try and turn his position into a fortress; however, he has an isolated a-pawn and White has more than enough minor pieces to attack it.

So it also makes sense to try and create passed pawns on the King side. However, 19...f5 and 20...e5 lose a pawn. Interesting game to study. Probably no rules for 3 pieces v. Queen that will apply to every situation.

Aug-15-21  Delboy: What about the more obvious 16. Nxf3, when white is a piece up? I do not see any refutation based on 16. ... Nxe4 17. Nxe4 Qxa2 (18. ... Bxb2+ also does not seem to work) 18. Qd3, and now?
Aug-15-21  goodevans: <yureesystem: A beautiful and complicated queen sacrifice by white.>

<Delboy: What about the more obvious 16. Nxf3, when white is a piece up?>

I'm with <Delboy> on this one.

It feels like Black was looking to play surprising sacrifices even if unsound (10...b5? as well as 13...Nxf3?). White called his bluff on the first one and if he'd done the same on the second he'd probably have won much quicker.

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  Teyss: <Delboy> <goodevans> Good point. Maybe White was wary of threats on the Queenside after 18...Qxb2+ although nothing obvious pops up. Also depends how confortable the player feels with specific positions and material (here 2N+B vs Q+P so not really a sacrifice as pointed out by <al wazir>).
Regardless, the game delivered an interesting continuation.
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  sleepyirv: A very nice birthday gift to me!

I guess <cg> must be running low on puns if they have to use two of mine in one week, but I'm really enjoying it.

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  Teyss: <sleepyirv> Happy birthday! Good game and pun, Carr being confronted to two horses. Also feels like Black was going the wrong way, sacrificing the P on b5 and the N on f3 without much compensation as noted by <goodevans>.
Aug-15-21  jith1207: Excellent pun and great timing on publishing the pun on his birthday!
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  Teyss: <sleepyirv> PS: for info you have the same avatar as User: Colonel Mortimer.
Aug-15-21  ajile: I like the way White calmly protected and consolidated his position before the final attack.
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  An Englishman: Good Afternoon: Do the advocates of 16.Nxf3 actually mean 14.Nxf3? After move 15, the Queen sacrifice has already taken place, and 16.Nf3 (not "Nxf3") simply drops the Knight. Or that's how it appears to these old eyes and older brain.
Aug-24-21  Delboy: Sorry for the confusion <An Englishman>, I indeed meant the obvious capture 14. Nxf3. I'm not saying I advocate the move (the game continuation worked quite nicely), just that I could not see the justification for black giving up the knight like that

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